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To: Alas Babylon!

As info: Kos has a solid 13 names that will vote for Phil A. Buster with 2 undecided who had previously been listed in the "No on cloture" field.

1 Barbara Boxer (D- CA)
2 Dianne Feinstein (D- CA)
3 Christopher J. Dodd (D- CT)
4 Richard J. Durbin (D- IL)
5 John F. Kerry (D- MA)
6 Edward M. Kennedy (D- MA)
7 Paul S. Sarbanes (D- MD)
8 Debbie A. Stabenow (D- MI)
9 Harry Reid (D- NV)
10 Hillary Rodham Clinton (D- NY)
11 Charles Schumer (D- NY)
12 Ron Wyden (D- OR)
13 Russell D. Feingold (D- WI)
14 Barack Obama (D-IL) undecided
(?) (see update)
15 Robert Menendez (D-NJ) undecided

Does anyone besides me think the futility of this exercise will be realized just before the cloture vote and the "debate" will be ended by UC and the vote for confirmation taken as scheduled Tuesday?

....and yeah I know, shower time. Gotta hit the treadmill first though.


85 posted on 01/29/2006 5:45:45 AM PST by Chuck54 (Alito Battle - Liberals expected Armageddon & got Dunkirk. (C. Krauthammer)
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To: Chuck54

When Dianne Feinstein fears for Chimpy Sheahan's threats and acting accordingly, it shows that democrats are in deep trouble.


94 posted on 01/29/2006 5:49:19 AM PST by anita
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To: Chuck54
15 Robert Menendez (D-NJ) undecided

This guy is already trailing in the polls for the NJ senate seat.

That ought to cook his goose.

111 posted on 01/29/2006 5:58:35 AM PST by mware (The keeper of the I's once again.)
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To: Chuck54
Does anyone besides me think the futility of this exercise will be realized just before the cloture vote and the "debate" will be ended by UC and the vote for confirmation taken as scheduled Tuesday?

Yep. I think that it will be clear before 4:30 PM Monday that Alito has 60 votes to confirm.

225 posted on 01/29/2006 6:37:04 AM PST by Cboldt
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To: Chuck54
I'm getting more than a little confused about what Feinstein intends to do. First she wasn't going to filabuster, then she decided to filabuster, at about the same time Cindy was threatening and bullying her...now she isn't? Again? Or is she one of the 'undecideds'?

Maybe DiFi's thumbering her nose at idiot Cindy now?

374 posted on 01/29/2006 7:30:07 AM PST by cake_crumb (Leftist Credo: One Wing to Rule them All and to the Darkside Bind them)
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To: Chuck54

"As info: Kos has a solid 13 names that will vote for Phil A. Buster with 2 undecided who had previously been listed in the "No on cloture" field."

Whoopee - 13 names! What about the gang of 14? These idiots just want to show their left-wing wacko base that they're working for them, so they can get more $$$s (I suspect Soros has been ringing their phones off the hook, too).

From a post I made yesterday - gang of 14 i not going to go along w this:

"Another Gang of 14 member on board to help end the filibuster. Does anyone have a list of all gang members committed to stopping the filibuster?"

Don't have a list of those who are committed to stopping filibuter, but here is the gang (from one of your posts, Cboldt). The only ones that I could see voting no on cloture from the list below might be Inouye, and that's just because I don't know that much about him. Landrieu and/or Salazar might if the Dims pressure them enough, though they both stated the other day that they would vote no to confirm and yes on cloture. IMHO, Salazar would get blasted at home as CO has a lot of Pubbies and he barely won over Coors. Landrieu might not vote to confirm, but I think she needs to be careful about voting no on cloture, because she wants $s for LA for Katrina. Pryor said he would not support a filibuster.

Also, according to a poll on Rasmussen, people in AR (Pryor), CO (Salazar), CT (Lieberman), and WV (Byrd) support the confirmation. That said, as of last Nov, so did people in WA, but my 2 bimbo senators are useless, in fact, I read last night that when a WA FReeper called Cant-do-well's office, they said she hadn't made up her mind and was meeting w Alito on Monday - -what the heck for, except to stall (and, she's up for election this year)!!!

http://www.rasmussenreports.com/2006/January%20Dailies/Alito%20Confirmation%20by%20State.htm

A. Future Nominations. Signatories will exercise their
responsibilities under the Advice and Consent Clause of the
United States Constitution in good faith. Nominees should only
be filibustered under extraordinary circumstances, and each
signatory must use his or her own discretion and judgment in
determining whether such circumstances exist.

E. Benjamin Nelson (D-NE)
Joe Lieberman (D-CT)
Robert Byrd (D-WV)
Ken Salazar (D-CO)
Mary Landrieu (D-LA)
Daniel K. Inouye (D-HI)
Mark Pryor (D-AR)
Olympia Snowe (R-ME)
Lindsey Graham (R-SC)
John McCain (R-AZ)
Mike DeWine (R-OH)
John Warner (R-VA)
Susan Collins (R-ME)
Lincoln Chaffee (R-RI)

http://www.nationalreview.com/pdf/compromise.pdf
10 posted on 01/27/2006 1:06:16 PM PST by Cboldt

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1566404/replies?c=4

and cboldt's additional great info:

Gang-of-14 Positions Relating to Alito Filibuster.
Caveat: I took an announced vote FOR the nominee to be a postition against filibuster, to narrow the search. Seven of the fourteen have announced being FOR the nominee.
Of the remaining seven, three are against filibuster. That leaves a maximum of four Gang-of-14 Senators being willing to cast a vote for filibuster. None of them has expressed an intention to vote for the filibuster.

The anti-filibuster vote is 59, by adding Chaffee, Landrieu and Pryor to the 56 AYE votes for the nominee. In order to defeat the cloture motion, the DEMs have to get all four of the "NONCOMMITAL on filibuster" below (Inouye, Lieberman, Salazar and Snowe). That would clearly signal the death of "extraordinary circumstances," and would validate the use of the nuclear option.

But even getting all four of the "NONCOMMITAL on filibuster" from the Gang-of-14 wouldn't be enough to sustain a defeat of the cloture motion.



Daniel K. Inouye (D-HI) - NONCOMMITAL on filibuster - AGAINST the nominee
Joe Lieberman (D-CT) - NONCOMMITAL on filibuster - AGAINST the nominee
http://lieberman.senate.gov/newsroom/release.cfm?id=250808

Ken Salazar (D-CO) - NONCOMMITAL on filibuster - AGAINST the nominee
http://salazar.senate.gov/news/releases/060119alito.htm

Olympia Snowe (R-ME) - NONCOMMITAL on filibuster & the nominee
Her voicemail box (202.224.5344) is currently "full." LOL.

Lincoln Chaffee (R-RI) - Against Filibuster - Noncommital on the nominee.
Chafee has long signaled his worry that a filibuster against Alito would gridlock the Senate. Hourahan reaffirmed Thursday that the senator would join fellow Republicans in voting to shut off debate.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1566755/posts

Mary Landrieu (D-LA) - Against filibuster - Noncommital on the nominee.
"Because we have such a full plate of pressing issues before Congress, a filibuster at this time would be, in my view, very counterproductive. It is imperative that we remain focused on creating the tools New Orleans, Louisiana and the Gulf Coast will need to rebuild. This includes passing the Baker bill and allowing our state to keep its fair share of offshore energy revenues. We simply cannot afford to bring the Senate to a halt at a time when we need its action the most. If called to vote for cloture on Judge Alito's nomination, I will vote yes.

"I will continue to consult with constituents, groups, organizations and colleagues to decide on my final vote. I do think it is important that we have an up or down vote."
http://landrieu.senate.gov/scotus/alito2.cfm

Mark Pryor (D-AR) - Against filibuster - AGAINST the nominee
He added, without prompting, that he did not support a filibuster against Alito because "one is not warranted."
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1566420/posts





E. Benjamin Nelson (D-NE) - Against filibuster - FOR the nominee
John McCain (R-AZ) - Against filibuster - FOR the nominee
Mike DeWine (R-OH) - Against filibuster - FOR the nominee
John Warner (R-VA) - Against filibuster - FOR the nominee
Robert Byrd (D-WV) - Against filibuster - FOR the nominee
Susan Collins (R-ME) - Against filibuster - FOR the nominee
Lindsey Graham (R-SC) - Against filibuster - FOR the nominee

43 posted on 01/28/2006 8:34:51 AM PST by Cboldt

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1566755/posts?page=49#49



440 posted on 01/29/2006 7:51:50 AM PST by Seattle Conservative (God bless and protect our troops and their CIC. (Seahawks are going to the Superbowl!!))
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