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1 posted on 01/28/2006 9:13:59 PM PST by NormsRevenge
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Associated Press

In a news conference at the White House on Thursday, President Bush defends his program of warrantless surveillance. "There's no doubt in my mind it is legal," he says.


2 posted on 01/28/2006 9:22:24 PM PST by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... Monthly Donor spoken Here. Go to ... https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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They missed one:
Q: When will Pinchey and the rest of the traitorous scumbags at the New York Slimes be charged with treason?

A: Not soon enough.


3 posted on 01/28/2006 9:22:46 PM PST by upchuck (Article posts of just one or two sentences do not preserve the quality of FR. Lazy FReepers be gone!)
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"At least two federal lawsuits are based on a belief that the individuals may have engaged in conversations that would have attracted the NSA's attention. If the courts allow the cases to proceed, the government may be forced to disclose information about the program and its targets."

Two points here:

[1] My strong suspicion is that the suggestion that they might have attracted the NSA's attention is thin cover for the real purpose: to expose the program and thereby derail its mission. I'd bet a dollar or two these are people involved with others that are actively trying to oppose the United States.

[2] During 'discovery', one of the first things I'd ask from the Government side is "Okay, you think you got monitored. When phone numbers were you having conversations with?" If the numbers are not on "the list", then argue for dismissal... but consider adding them. If on "the list", then charge the plaintiffs with treason!

4 posted on 01/28/2006 9:23:35 PM PST by alancarp (NASCAR: Always turning left, but can never keep up with the Liber-commis.)
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Well, why rock the boat ask the inquisitors? Just go to the court and get the warrant say the inquisitors.

What if one or more of your METHODS is very secret and not widely known. What if one of the FISA judges is leaking info. What if one of the FISA judges resigned in November/December about the time GWB started avoiding the court? Why would said judge resign? Is it possible that said Judge Robertson was appointed by Bubba and is guilty of revealing methods to the NYT, etc? Now, would that be a valid reason to go around FISA? To prevent the public learning of certain methods?


5 posted on 01/28/2006 9:44:30 PM PST by Rembrandt (We would have won Viet Nam w/o Dim interference.)
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I'm surprised a fair and logical argument from AP.
6 posted on 01/28/2006 9:45:06 PM PST by Mike Darancette (Condimaniac)
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To: NormsRevenge
It's only, what?, a week into this kerfuffel created by the New York Times and the Associated Press gets at least part of the story correct. First, these are all international communications, not domestic. Second, the person on the international end of the call is a suspected Al Qaeda member.

H*ll, that's progress.

Of course, the article still darkly intimates that there may be many of these calls. Doesn't the AP read its own prior articles? What are there in the world, maybe 10,000 known Al Qaeda suspects? How many of them make calls into, or receive calls from, the United States? How does that possible number of maybe 30 a day compare to the total international phone traffic to/from the US on a daily basis? Maybe one in a million?

The article doesn't say anything about other Presidents using the same powers (varying with current technology, for sure). Under President Roosevelt in WW II, all letters to and from Germany and Japan were being opened and read before delivery. And there was no "suspected agent" criterion. It was all of them.

I spit on the AP for not doing their homework fully on this story. I spit twice on the New York Times, because they did even less, and violated espionage laws by even publishing their story.

Did I miss anything?

Congressman Billybob

Latest column: "Senator Ted Kennedy and Mrs. Alito's Tears"

12 posted on 01/28/2006 10:11:47 PM PST by Congressman Billybob (Hillary! delendum est.)
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The Times betrayed a closely held secret operation in time of war. I want to see these people in handcuffs. I am furious about it.

You can't use wire-tap information to prosecute someone in a criminal trial. This isn't a criminal matter, its war. If you are in communication with Al Qaeda, we should be hauling you away to one of those secret jails in Romania we keep hearing about, to sweat you for information about your pals, before dropping your body into the ocean.

This ain't no disco, this ain't no fooling around. If you suspect your calls may have been intercepted, because you've been chit-chatting with your radical uncle from Peshawar who keeps trying to get you to carry packages for him, you are probably right. If somehow we missed you, bring it to our attention and we'll get to you as quickly as we can.


13 posted on 01/28/2006 10:12:25 PM PST by marron
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From Captain's Quarters :

NYT/CBS Poll Undersamples Republicans, Still Shows Approval For NSA Program
January 27, 2006

34 posted on 01/28/2006 11:19:16 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach (History is soon Forgotten,)
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