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Russia Moved Iraqi WMD
News Max ^ | March 3, 2005 | Charles R. Smith

Posted on 01/28/2006 8:41:24 PM PST by strategofr

Moscow Moved Weapons to Syria and Lebanon

According to a former top Bush administration official, Russian special forces teams moved weapons of mass destruction out of Iraq to Syria.

"I am absolutely sure that Russian Spetsnatz units moved WMD out of Iraq before the war," stated John Shaw, the former deputy undersecretary for international technology security. According to Shaw, Russian units hid Saddam's arsenal inside Syria and in Lebanon's Bekka valley.

"While in Iraq I uncovered detailed information that Spetsnatz units shredded records and moved all WMD and specified advanced munitions out of Iraq to Syria and Lebanon," stated Shaw during an exclusive interview.

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TOPICS: Editorial; Foreign Affairs; Government; Russia; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: baathism; chicoms; china; coldwar2; communism; iran; iraq; johnshaw; kgb; prequel; putin; rasputin; russia; saddam; sovietunion; spetsnatz; spetsnaz; syria; terrorism; ussr; wmd
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To: Stellar Dendrite

Stellar, you're a bottom feeder, and that is the highest you will ever achieve.


161 posted on 01/30/2006 6:26:12 PM PST by GarySpFc (De Oppresso Liber)
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To: jb6
The "weaponization" of that anthrax can be learned in most any biology book on germs plus the anarchist cook book. That what was used in DC was anything but weaponized. It was crude by 1940s standards.

ROFL, yeah, that's why the FBI was unable to duplicate the proces that made it after two years.

Dr. Richard Spertzel said that there was only a small handful of people in the entire country with the knowledge to make that anthrax, and that he himself was one of them. In his own words, any country with that knowledge had "the keys to the kingdom".

No personal disrespect, but I take his word on it over yours.

162 posted on 01/30/2006 6:51:57 PM PST by jpl ("We don't negotiate with terrorists, we put them out of business." - Scott McClellan)
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To: strategofr

Probably so.


163 posted on 01/31/2006 2:53:46 AM PST by stuartcr (Everything happens as God wants it to.....otherwise, things would be different.)
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To: billbears

How do you know, that what you have accepted is the truth?


164 posted on 01/31/2006 2:54:30 AM PST by stuartcr (Everything happens as God wants it to.....otherwise, things would be different.)
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To: enraged

I'm looking more forward to what Gov. Kaine has to say after.


165 posted on 01/31/2006 2:55:13 AM PST by stuartcr (Everything happens as God wants it to.....otherwise, things would be different.)
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To: The Drowning Witch

Bekka valley ping!


166 posted on 01/31/2006 3:00:20 AM PST by Jackknife ( "I bet after seeing us, George Washington would sue us for calling him 'father'." —Will Rogers)
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To: Stellar Dendrite; jb6; GarySpFc
Stellar Dendrite wrote to me the following reply: dont play victim now, you said that i hate president bush which is false. there is no need to continue debating individuals like yourself.

President Bush has said such glowing words about Putin and his soul that if it was said first by a Freeper and posted on here Stella would have responded in this way:

gary, i dont give a sh*t. he is now shilling for the kgb murderer putin, as are you. to me that negates ANY sort of service given to this country!!!!!!!!! IT IS TREASON

So Stellar, according to your logic you think President Bush is a traitor for what he feels about Putin. It is the logical conclusion one makes when reading your views/comments.

167 posted on 01/31/2006 7:01:05 AM PST by Godwinson ("The desire to rule is the mother of heresies." -- St. John Chrysostom)
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To: strategofr; Mia T

We wrote, here, about the weapons' movement to the Bekkah during the American-Soldier-Intensive six months' long Blair/Blix/Powell/Chiraq/Schroeder/Putin pause between the time our troops were in place and President Bush finally ordered them into action.

During the Blair breather, the WMDs were all moved and ammo dumps set up at every turn to facilitate the terrorist attacks that continue today.

BUMPping


168 posted on 01/31/2006 7:35:02 AM PST by Brian Allen (How arrogant are we to believe our career political-power-lusting lumpen somehow superior to theirs?)
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To: Brian Allen

bump!


169 posted on 01/31/2006 7:37:01 AM PST by Mia T (Stop Clintons' Undermining Machinations (The acronym is the message.))
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To: Brian Allen; strategofr; Mia T
You could write lots of stuff - bu that does not make it true.

The "delay" to our eyes in the sky mean nothing. We could and can easily see convoy movement of heavy trucks and ammo dumps being created.

This article was over a year ago. The man who made the claim (Shaw) was fired and is under investigation by our govt for fishy dealings/bribes.

This info is as reliable as the info Chalabi gave us.

170 posted on 01/31/2006 8:36:50 AM PST by Godwinson ("The desire to rule is the mother of heresies." -- St. John Chrysostom)
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To: Godwinson

<< We could and can easily see .... ammo dumps being created. >>

Yep.

We saw alright.

And know where they all used to be.

That's why, two years on, the republican guards and all of the other in-theater terrorists are still, every month, pulling scores of tons of artillery shells and other explosives from the widely dispersed and secreted dumps that we know all about and are so-successfully using them to, every month, blow scores more folks to Hell or Kingdom Come.

But Baby Bashir has the bulk of the WMDs, which were moved from the Bekkah and back into Syria after Mr Bush arranged Syria's Lebanon retreat a few months ago.


171 posted on 01/31/2006 8:55:09 AM PST by Brian Allen (How arrogant are we to believe our career political-power-lusting lumpen somehow superior to theirs?)
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To: Tall_Texan

That would be"the will of Allah".


172 posted on 01/31/2006 8:55:21 AM PST by steve8714 (Burn Peugeot, burn.)
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To: strategofr
Russian special forces teams moved weapons of mass destruction out of Iraq to Syria.

Not only did Ruskies move their stuff - they have a dedicated program (name needs to be googled) that they rehearse and refine in every host country. This program evacuates the WMD's and destroys all traces of evidence. There are a gazillion very sharp satellite photos detailing the convoys of Ruskie dignitaries leaving Iraq for Syria during the run up Fall 2002 to March 2003. We bombed a convoy in MArch 2003 and nearly took out an ambassador or two and a general also.

One could surmise that the US congressional demoncrats were on the payroll of the RUskies just to stall for time while the well ordered evacuation drill of WMD's from Iraq proceeded apace. IT was common knowledge in the news but was censored by the NON-free media. Unfortunately, no one stood up long or loud enough to make this point several years ago.

173 posted on 01/31/2006 9:01:23 AM PST by i.l.e. (Tagline - this space for sale....)
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To: Romanov
The whole thing doesn't make sense for a variety of reasons. Most of all, the claim that the Russians would pack up the WMD and ship it off to Syria is illogical

Deniability is the name of the game - so much so that WMD evacuation has its own program funding and personnel. Look it up on google.

you must be a shill for some disinformation entity. Good luck on FR.

174 posted on 01/31/2006 9:04:08 AM PST by i.l.e. (Tagline - this space for sale....)
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To: Brian Allen
Did you use a cyrstal ball to see that? Where is the proof? I mean its a year or so on from this report - where be the photos? Since you buy this scenario and not I - do you think Bush and his cabinet should resign for allowing the WMD to escape Iraq - the very reason we went to war?

Since the WMD escaped - the Iraqi invasion was a failure by your line of thinking.

175 posted on 01/31/2006 9:13:01 AM PST by Godwinson ("The desire to rule is the mother of heresies." -- St. John Chrysostom)
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To: Godwinson

Thank you for having shared.


176 posted on 01/31/2006 9:14:29 AM PST by Brian Allen (How arrogant are we to believe our career political-power-lusting lumpen somehow superior to theirs?)
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To: i.l.e.
I googled the name of this covert Russian program.

Operation Bull Shi'ite

177 posted on 01/31/2006 9:15:39 AM PST by Godwinson ("The desire to rule is the mother of heresies." -- St. John Chrysostom)
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To: Godwinson

http://www.commondreams.org/headlines04/0707-03.htm


178 posted on 01/31/2006 9:52:53 AM PST by Romanov
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To: strategofr
There is no question that the Russian effort to remove Iraqi WMD systems was the most successful intelligence operation of the 21st century. The Russians were able to move hundreds of tons of chemical, biological and nuclear materials without being discovered by CIA satellites or NSA radio listening posts.

Shocking. I had my doubts about the war in Iraq but now I'm absolutely sure that G.W. Bush was right. And just think that some Russian dupes on FR and "the Party of Russian Wives" still claims that Putin is a friend of the free world.

179 posted on 01/31/2006 12:31:51 PM PST by REactor
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To: strategofr

I remember this info coming out right after Condi took over at the State Dept and made her first trip to Russia.

It was right after that event that the info about Russia moving the WMD became public. I always wondered if Condi went to Russia partly to tell Putin we were going to release this information - and maybe to ask Putin if he would admit to the movement of the WMD - or at least the WMD equipment. Because the WMD is small enough it would not require special ops to carry out a removal.


180 posted on 01/31/2006 12:44:31 PM PST by CyberAnt ( I believe Congressman Curt Weldon re Able Danger)
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