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Russia Moved Iraqi WMD
News Max ^ | March 3, 2005 | Charles R. Smith

Posted on 01/28/2006 8:41:24 PM PST by strategofr

Moscow Moved Weapons to Syria and Lebanon

According to a former top Bush administration official, Russian special forces teams moved weapons of mass destruction out of Iraq to Syria.

"I am absolutely sure that Russian Spetsnatz units moved WMD out of Iraq before the war," stated John Shaw, the former deputy undersecretary for international technology security. According to Shaw, Russian units hid Saddam's arsenal inside Syria and in Lebanon's Bekka valley.

"While in Iraq I uncovered detailed information that Spetsnatz units shredded records and moved all WMD and specified advanced munitions out of Iraq to Syria and Lebanon," stated Shaw during an exclusive interview.

(Excerpt) Read more at newsmax.com ...


TOPICS: Editorial; Foreign Affairs; Government; Russia; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: baathism; chicoms; china; coldwar2; communism; iran; iraq; johnshaw; kgb; prequel; putin; rasputin; russia; saddam; sovietunion; spetsnatz; spetsnaz; syria; terrorism; ussr; wmd
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To: stuartcr

Maybe on Tuesday 1/31/2006, during the state of the Union address? I hope but, not expecting it too seriously tho.


141 posted on 01/30/2006 11:58:43 AM PST by enraged (Hello you sick freak!)
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To: strategofr
"There is a clear sense on how effective they were," noted Shaw. "The fact that the CIA did not know shows just how successful the Russian operation was," he concluded. John Shaw, the former deputy undersecretary for international technology security.

Well since you're the deputy blah, blah, I guess that you did tell the CIA, so the CIA does know, or the CIA doesn't believe you.

I've always wondered why Bush got off the WMD bandwagon so early. Perhaps it's stratergy: as first we needed to find Saddam; and now it's we've got to get Iraq under control, so we can redeploy our troops to fire the new weapons stockpile that has been building after the depletion in Afganistan.

Sounds like this war on terror is going to have many fronts. We poked the stick in the hornets nest, lets hope that we've got the troops and the backing of the democRAT half of the US population

This could get real ugly, real fast.

142 posted on 01/30/2006 12:03:33 PM PST by aShepard
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To: Stellar Dendrite
you're not fooling anyone, and the more you respond to me, the more it blows your "cover" as an individual on the kremlin payroll

Sorry, but I happen to know JB6 was an American Army Officer, whereas it is very obvious you are a Soros lackey on his payroll.
143 posted on 01/30/2006 12:10:33 PM PST by GarySpFc (De Oppresso Liber)
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To: aShepard; strategofr
Well since you're the deputy blah, blah, I guess that you did tell the CIA, so the CIA does know, or the CIA doesn't believe you.

Logic/reason can be a pain in the arse, eh?

144 posted on 01/30/2006 12:13:25 PM PST by Godwinson ("The desire to rule is the mother of heresies." -- St. John Chrysostom)
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To: Godwinson
The weaponized anthrax's DNA used after 9/11 pointed to a domestic origin.

And as everyone knows, technology can never be stolen by spies or anything like that.

By the way, the Ames strain of anthrax has existed for years in at least two other countries that we know of, the U.K. and Canada. Who knows who else might have it without our knowledge.

145 posted on 01/30/2006 12:23:48 PM PST by jpl ("We don't negotiate with terrorists, we put them out of business." - Scott McClellan)
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To: jpl

Very true. Sad that we are no closer to solving that case - as far as we know that is. Last I remember they were looking at the Anthrax letters originating from a unabomber like freak who was upset at some interstate trucking laws or something odd like that and had sent anthrax letters in the past? Memory hazy on subject. Too busy to GOGGLE here :)


146 posted on 01/30/2006 12:28:58 PM PST by Godwinson ("The desire to rule is the mother of heresies." -- St. John Chrysostom)
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To: logician2u

" And all this time, I thought the missing WMD were aboard those three mystery ships.

This story is just so much more believable (if that's what you want to believe)."

SOOO clever. Ever think of changing your name to "Font Man"?


147 posted on 01/30/2006 2:09:14 PM PST by strategofr (Hillary stole 1000+ secret FBI files on DC movers & shakers, Hillary's Secret War, Poe, p. xiv)
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To: I'm ALL Right!

"I am concerned (understatement) about the supposed "answer" to Iran's nuclear issue...have them send the "spent" uranium back to Russia so it is accounted for, and so they cannot enrich it. I don't trust Russia AT ALL."

I'm with you. This is the supposed solution to the Iranian nuclear reactors---built by Russia and the first place.


148 posted on 01/30/2006 2:10:07 PM PST by strategofr (Hillary stole 1000+ secret FBI files on DC movers & shakers, Hillary's Secret War, Poe, p. xiv)
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To: GarySpFc

"Sorry, but I happen to know JB6 was an American Army Officer,"

gary, i dont give a sh*t. he is now shilling for the kgb murderer putin, as are you. to me that negates ANY sort of service given to this country!!!!!!!!! IT IS TREASON

both of you are cheering on a man who also helped murder american troops with weapons sales to iraq. pat yourself on the back


149 posted on 01/30/2006 3:57:07 PM PST by Stellar Dendrite (There's nothing "Mainstream" about the Orwellian Media!!!)
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To: Godwinson

US government DOES know, why they do not tell-- i do not know. perhaps it is diplomatic but i think that is plain wrong. however, this is different than actually doing the act itself (selling weapons, radar jamming equip).


150 posted on 01/30/2006 4:00:24 PM PST by Stellar Dendrite (There's nothing "Mainstream" about the Orwellian Media!!!)
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To: Godwinson

dont play victim now, you said that i hate president bush which is false. there is no need to continue debating individuals like yourself.


151 posted on 01/30/2006 4:07:03 PM PST by Stellar Dendrite (There's nothing "Mainstream" about the Orwellian Media!!!)
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To: Stellar Dendrite
"Sorry, but I happen to know JB6 was an American Army Officer,"
gary, i dont give a sh*t. he is now shilling for the kgb murderer putin, as are you. to me that negates ANY sort of service given to this country!!!!!!!!! IT IS TREASON
both of you are cheering on a man who also helped murder american troops with weapons sales to iraq. pat yourself on the back

Obviously you are a Democrat, because President Bush does not agree with you. Additionally, several other military men have posted on this site that you don't know what you are discussing. May I suggest you march your rear over to Democrat Underground where you belong.

152 posted on 01/30/2006 4:16:28 PM PST by GarySpFc (De Oppresso Liber)
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To: strategofr; hellinahandcart

This is Barbra Streisand.

There was recently (in the last week) a former Iraqi general that detailed the WMD was transported out in two retrofitted commercial airplanes to Syria.

Also, GEN Tommy Franks commented that 2 days before the action over there, they observed a number of trucks heading for the Syrian border.

I vote in favor of Occam's Razor. It does not include "Spetznaz."


154 posted on 01/30/2006 4:50:20 PM PST by sauropod ("Here Lies Joe Biden, Buried Under His Own Words.")
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To: Oh Come On

You're not a troll, are you?


155 posted on 01/30/2006 5:13:30 PM PST by little jeremiah
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To: Stellar Dendrite
but i see you did not address his murdering of US troops in iraq with the weapons they sold

Which ones? The 30 year old T-72s or the 20 year old wire guided anti-tank missiles. Russia's newest ATs are all laser guided and none were found or used by the Iraqies...or the 45 year old T-55s?

156 posted on 01/30/2006 5:55:17 PM PST by jb6 (The Atheist/Pagan mind, a quandary wrapped in egoism and served with a side order of self importance)
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To: Stellar Dendrite; Godwinson

157 posted on 01/30/2006 5:57:21 PM PST by jb6 (The Atheist/Pagan mind, a quandary wrapped in egoism and served with a side order of self importance)
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To: jpl

The "weaponization" of that anthrax can be learned in most any biology book on germs plus the anarchist cook book. That what was used in DC was anything but weaponized. It was crude by 1940s standards.


158 posted on 01/30/2006 5:58:50 PM PST by jb6 (The Atheist/Pagan mind, a quandary wrapped in egoism and served with a side order of self importance)
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To: sauropod

"I vote in favor of Occam's Razor. It does not include "Spetznaz.""

Quite possibly not.


159 posted on 01/30/2006 6:00:45 PM PST by strategofr (Hillary stole 1000+ secret FBI files on DC movers & shakers, Hillary's Secret War, Poe, p. xiv)
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To: jpl
And as everyone knows, technology can never be stolen by spies or anything like that

That technology was old in 1941. Growing anthrax in military labs and aerosolizing it makes it about 10,000 times more dense. What was used was only a few hundred more times, attached to a soap solid that was powdered and delivered as a solid medium. Thus only 4 or 5 people actually died.

160 posted on 01/30/2006 6:02:28 PM PST by jb6 (The Atheist/Pagan mind, a quandary wrapped in egoism and served with a side order of self importance)
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