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German women told: we need more babies
Telegraph UK ^ | January 28, 2006 | Kate Connolly

Posted on 01/28/2006 8:05:41 PM PST by MinorityRepublican

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To: shield
Ban abortion.....

Like that's going to happen in Germany.

141 posted on 01/29/2006 1:18:51 PM PST by MinorityRepublican (everyone that doesn't like what America and President Bush has done for Iraq can all go to HELL)
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To: MediaAnalyst
It still all comes back to to the incentives.

Yes, that's what the market operates on, but it's a perversion to use the word "incentives" to apply it to market-based implementation of a socialist policy.

What you're saying is that we penalize people who aren't blessed with children to subsidize those who are (i.e., charge the former higher taxes), and you support raising that subsidy even more.

What you need to ask yourself is why people have children, and what are the pros and cons of it. Why is there a lower need for couples to have children than in the past (many reason; hint for one: no longer so farm-based here in US)? Look beyond just using the market for implementation of central planning, and see if there are elements within it that we can learn from.

142 posted on 01/29/2006 3:02:28 PM PST by Gondring (I'll give up my right to die when hell freezes over my dead body!)
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To: redgolum

"That is funny"....well, when it happens here, in the next few years...it will NOT seem funny....


143 posted on 01/29/2006 3:14:03 PM PST by thinking
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To: RaceBannon
Um... just thought you might be interested in this thread!

;-D

144 posted on 01/29/2006 6:05:17 PM PST by nutmeg (NEVER trust democRATs with our national security)
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To: sageb1

I don't have a clue. I've seen lots of anti-Muslim comments and have probably posted some myself. I suppose it might depend on the language used?


145 posted on 01/29/2006 6:43:51 PM PST by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: COEXERJ145

Any you're laughed at for being a DU troll.

Typical leftist, call anyone you dislike a NAZI.

Notice you're over at a Coulter attacking her too.

Phony Conservative alert.


146 posted on 01/31/2006 7:15:02 AM PST by rcocean (Copyright is theft and loved by Hollywood socialists)
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To: purpleland

In the United States, the teen abortion rate is nearly eight times higher than the rate in Germany, nearly seven times higher than that in the Netherlands, and nearly three times higher than the rate in France


147 posted on 01/31/2006 7:19:27 AM PST by kabar
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To: sageb1
I'm not comfortable with the state assigning a financial amount to having or raising children. That's a slippery slope.

Our tax system provides incentives to have and raise children.

148 posted on 01/31/2006 7:20:47 AM PST by kabar
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To: MinorityRepublican
There's some reason why there's no day care centers, and this article doesn't mention it. Instead, it says that the government needs to provide more child care. However, I'm sure if someone wanted to look into it, they'd find that the private sector is not establishing day care centers because there is some sort of onerous regulation. It may be zoning, it may be in what you have to pay day care workers, it may be simple licensing and all the other headaches. But there's some reason.

Here in the United States, there's day care available if you're willing to pay whatever the rate is. We have a one year old son, and we just decided to put him in daycare for 5 hours a week (2.5 hours 2 days a week). My wife stays home, but we just wanted a day care place for our son with minimal time so he would get over his separation anxiety, and it would also give my wife a chance to do things she can't possibly do with the baby in tow (dentist appointment, even getting the oil changed in the car). Sure enough, there was a place in town that was willing to do it by the hour. There are places that wouldn't take him less than full time, but there were several places to choose from, and thus the market worked.

Why isn't the market working in Germany? When the market doesn't work, and you dig deeper, you find that either 1) it really is working, but the prices are higher than most people think would be "fair" and thus they don't buy the services, or 2) there's some sort of government intervention that is preventing the process from working.

149 posted on 01/31/2006 7:27:38 AM PST by Koblenz (Holland: a very tolerant country. Until someone shoots you on a public street in broad daylight...)
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To: kabar

"In the United States, the teen abortion rate is nearly eight times higher than the rate in Germany, nearly seven times higher than that in the Netherlands, and nearly three times higher than the rate in France"

When the young are orientated to worshipping abortion (rights)...


150 posted on 01/31/2006 8:45:06 AM PST by purpleland (Elegy 9/11/01 Vigilance and Valor! Socialism is the Opiate of Academia)
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To: purpleland

Bump!


151 posted on 01/31/2006 10:08:52 PM PST by MinorityRepublican (everyone that doesn't like what America and President Bush has done for Iraq can all go to HELL)
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To: MediaAnalyst
Should a couple, childless through no fault of their own (or due their own choosing), be punished relative to a family that has kids. No. And what I talk about doesn't punish them

Well, then, you're in favor of equal tax treatment and pay-for-what-you-use. Why didn't you say so to begin with?

152 posted on 02/07/2006 9:42:18 AM PST by steve-b (A desire not to butt into other people's business is eighty percent of all human wisdom)
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To: MinorityRepublican

If you'd like to be on this Death of the West ping list, please FR mail me.

153 posted on 03/27/2006 4:32:31 PM PST by MinorityRepublican (everyone that doesn't like what America and President Bush has done for Iraq can all go to HELL)
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