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Suburban sprawl an irresistible force in US
Yayoo (Reuters) ^ | 26 January 2006 | Alan Elsner

Posted on 01/28/2006 1:50:56 PM PST by Lorianne

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1 posted on 01/28/2006 1:50:58 PM PST by Lorianne
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To: Lorianne
isn't 'agenda 21' supposed to solve this?

< sarcasm off >

2 posted on 01/28/2006 1:55:46 PM PST by madtier1
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To: Lorianne

When the kids move out of the house, they gotta move somewhere...


3 posted on 01/28/2006 1:56:12 PM PST by Alien Gunfighter (Got my scope ready, waiting for them to come over the hill)
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To: Lorianne

Farm towns get invaded by leftist yuppies all the time.

Small towns turn into big towns, and suddenly have crime and lousy schools to deal with.

Big towns turn into cities, creating ghettos and urban decadence existing side-by-side.


Where ever there is growth - taxes go up, culture is ruined, and values don't exist. And there is traffic. Lots and lots of traffic.


4 posted on 01/28/2006 1:58:29 PM PST by SteveMcKing
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To: Lorianne
The liberals hate liberty.
5 posted on 01/28/2006 1:58:44 PM PST by BenLurkin (O beautiful for patriot dream - that sees beyond the years)
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To: Lorianne
Though there is little polling information, a Gallup survey in March 2001 found that 69 percent of Americans were worried about sprawl and the loss of green spaces.

The same 69 percent would also vote to limit someone else's ability once they achieve "I've got mine" status.

6 posted on 01/28/2006 2:00:08 PM PST by Professional Engineer (Remembering Grissom, White and Chaffee)
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To: SteveMcKing

Exactly. I have said that numerous times, and been called a communist in return. People can say what will, it does not affect me.


7 posted on 01/28/2006 2:00:55 PM PST by SC33
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To: Professional Engineer

yep


8 posted on 01/28/2006 2:01:23 PM PST by Lorianne
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To: SteveMcKing

That sums it up pretty well. ;)


9 posted on 01/28/2006 2:01:48 PM PST by pepperhead (Kennedy's float, Mary Jo's don't!)
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To: Alien Gunfighter

The majority of pop. growth in the US is coming from immigration, predominantly illegal. Aside from illegal immigration, we have a fairly low birthrate, and in turn, a low pop. growth rate.


10 posted on 01/28/2006 2:02:37 PM PST by SC33
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To: Lorianne

Fear not. The states in the Rust Belt are becoming depopulated and the land will be reverted back to nature.


11 posted on 01/28/2006 2:05:12 PM PST by MinorityRepublican (everyone that doesn't like what America and President Bush has done for Iraq can all go to HELL)
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To: Lorianne

"Sprawl" is simply a pejorative, Luddite term for growth. It's been going on since the seventeenth century, and since the seventeenth century the same people have been bemoaning the same phenomenon. The Iroquois, the Cheyenne, the Greens, the Enviros... stand in the way of the American Juggernaut and see what happens. That screaming you hear is simply the sound of the greatest democracy the world has ever seen being born and hitting its stride. In a mere moment of history, the Old World aristocracy is gone and self-determination arrives.


12 posted on 01/28/2006 2:05:27 PM PST by Jack Hammer
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Sprawl is killing people, some 300,000 premature deaths annually because of the sprawl sedentary lifestyle

Where the heck do they get that statistic? Talk about hysterics!

13 posted on 01/28/2006 2:05:37 PM PST by jeffc
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To: SC33
If there is any divide at FR, it is not between South Parks and Christians, rather between the "borders, language, culture" crowd vs. those who would hire illegals in the name of laissez faire.
14 posted on 01/28/2006 2:06:16 PM PST by SteveMcKing
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To: SC33

You nailed it. The demands on our resources, social services, environment, and economy are being strained by legal and illegal immigration. If the Left was so concerned about the environment they'd stop immigration. But multicultural nirvana trumps all other values and goals.

STOP IMMIGRATION NOW!!!!


15 posted on 01/28/2006 2:07:09 PM PST by luvreagan
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To: Lorianne

Spwawl is the term used for "I got mine", now screw you, and everyone who might come after you.


16 posted on 01/28/2006 2:09:25 PM PST by xcamel (Exposing clandestine operations is treason. 13 knots make a noose.)
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To: Alien Gunfighter
When the kids move out of the house, they gotta move somewhere...

Duh. I'm sure the enviroweenies want me to stay at home with my parents. Then again, that's what most of them have been doing for years.

17 posted on 01/28/2006 2:11:35 PM PST by Clemenza (Divot: "You're Meshugah!" Bakshi: "I'm NOT Your Sugar!")
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To: Lorianne
Sprawl, defined as the unplanned, uncontrolled...

There it is! That's what it's all about! Control, control control! We should all have to ask the nice guvment where we can live! They're experts! We're stupid!

18 posted on 01/28/2006 2:12:27 PM PST by Da Bilge Troll (Defeatism is not a winning strategy!)
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To: Lorianne
Sprawl is really tough to deal with. On the one hand, it stretches resources, creates pollution, and is a big factor in the traffic headaches of major cities. On the other hand, if a person buys some land then they should be able to decide what to do with it (within reason). If they decide that they want to drive a car that gets 10/mpg for an hour and a half to and from work every day, then, questionable sense aside, they should be able to do that.

The only thing that I don't understand are the number of affluent young families that decide to move that far out, but then into one of those cookie-cutter "McMansion" deals. *Ugh*!

19 posted on 01/28/2006 2:12:44 PM PST by Zeroisanumber
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To: SC33; SteveMcKing
Good points, but keep in mind that whole regions of this country are becoming DEPOPULATED. Upstate New York, Central Pennsylvania, much of Michigan, West Virginia, etc. Detroit may revert to a state of nature, preferably as a national park, within my lifetime.

The problem is, everyone wants to live/work in certain regions of the country. All of the sprawl is concentrated in a few key areas that have registered continual economic growth.

BTW: People should have as many children as they can afford. I was heartened on recent trips to Utah and South Carolina to see several families with five kids, sometimes more. This contrasts with New York and Calipornia where the only folks with more than two kids are immigrants from the Middle East or Latin America.

20 posted on 01/28/2006 2:15:39 PM PST by Clemenza (Divot: "You're Meshugah!" Bakshi: "I'm NOT Your Sugar!")
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