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Suburban sprawl an irresistible force in US
Yayoo (Reuters) ^ | 26 January 2006 | Alan Elsner

Posted on 01/28/2006 1:50:56 PM PST by Lorianne

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To: Lorianne
Across the United States, an unprecedented acceleration in suburban sprawl is prompting concerns about the environment, traffic, health and damage to rural communities...

Oh, BS. What's prompting concern is the overwhelming "redness" of the electoral map. The more suburbanites, the more Republican the map tends to get.

61 posted on 01/28/2006 4:16:19 PM PST by Texas Eagle (If it wasn't for double-standards, Liberals would have no standards at all.)
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To: Zeroisanumber
I don't want everyone to live in a place like this, but I would also like to see ...

I admire, even envy your posting skills, but you have just proven my point.
I am content to make my choice and not comment on the choice others make.

And most telling of all, I do not state my preferences or dislikes with the dreaded words, "I don't want..." or "I would like to see..." referring to the choice of others.

See the difference?

62 posted on 01/28/2006 4:27:23 PM PST by Publius6961
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To: Publius6961
I am content to make my choice and not comment on the choice others make.

I think that we're all content to live and let live within a certain tolerance spectrum. It's a bit of an unfair example, but I imagine that while you might tolerate your neighbors choice of music without comment, you would have something to say if he decided to paint his house green with purple polka dots.

Similarly, I shake my head at all of these remarkably successful young couples moving into an outsized Levittown. I'm not saying that they can't or that they shouldn't be allowed to, but I do wonder why you'd spend such a large amount of money on such an ugly thing.

And most telling of all, I do not state my preferences or dislikes with the dreaded words, "I don't want..." or "I would like to see..." referring to the choice of others.

I think that it's perfectly acceptable so long as I'm not asking the 9th Circus to codify my preferences into law. :-)

See the difference?

I see your point.

63 posted on 01/28/2006 4:47:40 PM PST by Zeroisanumber
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To: Zeroisanumber
I think that it's perfectly acceptable so long as I'm not asking the 9th Circus to codify my preferences into law. :-)

Ahhh. But for every one like you, there are dozens who not only would but in fact do codify the tiny interests that circumscribe their lives into laws that affect everyone else. Their number is tiny but their influence large because they always couch their preferences into the most egregiously restrictive, but noble sounding purpose which result in horrible laws and regulations.

In a perfect world, your worldview would be wonderful. Alas, we live in a self-centered world bordering on madness.
I worked for decades in one of the most affluent counties in the whole country, on both sides of the battle: As a design engineer/manager in private industry, and also as planning commissioner, Design review Commissioner, Personnel Commissioner, On Energy Task Force, and Flood Control Advisory boards.

The inventiveness of those who would restrain and control others, for the most trivial or phony of reasons, is limitless. I have seen it up close and personal for many years.

It is neither "new" nor "unprecedented".

64 posted on 01/28/2006 5:52:08 PM PST by Publius6961
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To: Publius6961
Let me repeat -

We do need zoning laws - only not the stupid ones that exist in some communities.

I won't quibble if you want to change the word "some" to "most", although I think there are counties and towns that do well in some areas, but not many do well in all.

There are zoning laws I actually like - for example, ones that require that a developer include 10% "affordable" residences, some of which have to be public housing. Ones that require a certain amount of "green space". Ones that require a developer (and, yes, I know the home buyers pay) to pay for road improvements nearby. Ones that include commercial space in huge developments. Ones that might delay building until the school system can come up with a plan to accommodate new students.

There are more than a few zoning commissions (or boards) that have corrupt people on them, but that doesn't mean that we should do away with all zoning laws.

65 posted on 01/28/2006 6:18:40 PM PST by speekinout
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To: Zeroisanumber
Wait until you see the replica of La Sagrada Familia that I plan on building when I "make it."

McMansions are a-s ugly. You should see what certain newly rich immigrants (especially the East Indians and Chinese for some reason) do in New Jersey. They buy a small lot of property, knock down an old three bedroom colonial, and build a McMansion to the sidewalk! A man's home is his castle I guess.

66 posted on 01/28/2006 7:53:34 PM PST by Clemenza (Who Need's Love, When You've Got a Gun?)
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To: SC33
I agree. That's why I am a strong supporter of the type of LOCAL zoning laws that they have in places like Santa Fe or Carmel, that allow smaller cities and towns to maintain their charm.

Not all of us want to live in a sprawling hellhole like Houston. The key is smart local zoning laws.

67 posted on 01/28/2006 7:54:55 PM PST by Clemenza (Who Need's Love, When You've Got a Gun?)
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To: Lorianne
"paved over"? Hardly. Try converted into gardens fit for human habitation in all the ways human beings value most. The fact that the green movement is fundamentally a war against humanity becomes clearer with every headline. These people need not only to be confronted and opposed, they need to be treated as actual enemies in a lethal war.
68 posted on 01/28/2006 7:58:10 PM PST by JasonC
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To: Clemenza

Yah, I agree with everything you said. And btw., thank you for not calling me a communist, lol.


69 posted on 01/28/2006 9:29:13 PM PST by SC33
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To: Lorianne; hellinahandcart; Lil'freeper; big'ol_freeper

I hate Gilchrist.


70 posted on 01/29/2006 9:54:40 AM PST by sauropod ("Here Lies Joe Biden, Buried Under His Own Words.")
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He is certainly an embarrassment.


71 posted on 01/29/2006 10:04:23 AM PST by big'ol_freeper (..it takes some pretty serious yodeling to..filibuster from a five star ski resort in the Swiss Alps)
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To: Clemenza

You gotta be kidding! Santa Fe is a socialist hellhole!


72 posted on 01/29/2006 10:13:40 AM PST by sauropod ("Here Lies Joe Biden, Buried Under His Own Words.")
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