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To: Mase
You don't know much about post WWII economic history, do you?

Well I guess then with that question I'm supposed to presume you do?

Even the most ardent paleoconservatives, other than Buchanan, have never been in favor of economic isolationism.

It's not about economic isolationism, you won't find that in my posts. Although I do believe that if trade were kept to the 50 states and a few other countries with similar economic standards, which includes those related to labor we would do just fine that's not necessary.

What I argue is that the US should maintain complete control over its own trade policies. When any country starts taking advantage of us as China and others are doing then we should have the right to respond in kind, and that includes tariffs or restricted access to our markets. We're negotiating a lot of that away with these agreements and subjecting ourselves to the whims of unelected trade bodies that make all the decisions for us.

We're also giving corporations carte blanche to send American jobs overseas then ship all the products back as if they were made here. That's not good policy and I predict in ten years at the most there will be a shift away from anymore such agreements and maybe even a reversal of what we're currently practicing.

103 posted on 01/28/2006 3:33:44 PM PST by Reaganwuzthebest
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To: Reaganwuzthebest

I'd be curious to know how many jobs have been "shifted overseas" by these companies. U.S. manufacturing output is higher than ever, and there are more people in the U.S. working in manufacturing jobs today than there were 20, 30, or 40 years ago.


106 posted on 01/28/2006 3:38:37 PM PST by Alberta's Child (Leave a message with the rain . . . you can find me where the wind blows.)
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To: Reaganwuzthebest
We're negotiating a lot of that away with these agreements and subjecting ourselves to the whims of unelected trade bodies that make all the decisions for us.

No, we aren't. Anyone who thinks the U.S. is really subject to these international trade organizations should take a look at the ongoing softwood lumber dispute between the U.S. and Canada. Canada has won this dispute on multiple occasions before every trade board -- including NAFTA and GATT -- and yet the U.S. tariff on Canadian lumber remains in place (going on five years now) and there isn't a damn thing anyone is going to do about it.

If the U.S. wants to ignore an international trade board, it will.

109 posted on 01/28/2006 3:42:48 PM PST by Alberta's Child (Leave a message with the rain . . . you can find me where the wind blows.)
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To: Reaganwuzthebest
It's not about economic isolationism...

Although I do believe that if trade were kept to the 50 states and a few other countries with similar economic standards, which includes those related to labor we would do just fine that's not necessary.

The only thing consistent about you is your inconsistency.

112 posted on 01/28/2006 3:46:19 PM PST by Mase
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