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To: goresalooza
Glad he was stopped before he caused untold grief.

Not clear that any grief was intended. Everything he did, including the pound of MJ, would have been completely legal 100 years ago. All his crimes are mallum prohibitum, not mallum in se.

No indication he was even selling the MJ, it could have been his (admittedly large) personal stash for himself and his friends.

Now I don't a bit that the kid is a little sh**, but things have to be put in perspective.

29 posted on 01/27/2006 9:14:20 PM PST by El Gato (The Second Amendment is the Reset Button of the U.S. Constitution)
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To: El Gato
Yeah. Don't see anything wrong with having security cameras. A bag of weed, well I'd have no use for it (makes my lungs hurt) but to each his own. And if a gun has to be registered, being registered to a dead guy is just about right, it seems to me.
35 posted on 01/27/2006 9:33:28 PM PST by Clinging Bitterly (Oregon - a pro-militia and firearms state that looks just like Afghanistan .)
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To: El Gato; goresalooza
Glad he was stopped before he caused untold grief.

Not clear that any grief was intended. Everything he did, including the pound of MJ, would have been completely legal 100 years ago. All his crimes are mallum prohibitum, not mallum in se.

No indication he was even selling the MJ, it could have been his (admittedly large) personal stash for himself and his friends.

Now I don't a bit that the kid is a little sh**, but things have to be put in perspective.

Sounds nice and detached and clinical and all, except that it seems pretty clear that the kid was a whack job. I kinda doubt he was seen with the local NRA league, IDPA team, or CMP club range.

I wouldn't be shocked at all if the neighbors found stuff their cats killed, random windows shot out, and so forth, nor would I be at all surprised if they find a "list" in his room.

Not everyone who owns a few guns is a good guy. Guns are value-neutral. They are things. Just as they are not "evil", they are not "good" either -- nor does ownership of a few guns make a clearly antisocial kid "good".

The only thing they make him is "lethal", should he decide to go down that path.

Considering the previous owner of his handgun, I'd say he's hanging around suffiently unsavory characters to make it not unlikely that he'd go down that path too.

I'm sure I'll catch flack from the (pro) drug warriors and "Big-El" libertarian types. Good thing I don't care.

For the record, I've seen an awful large variety of "slice of life" in my many decades on this earth. I've seen everything -- up close and personal -- from politicians and Wall Street millionaires (self-made and "old money") all the way to "outlaw bikers" (close enough to have ridden "back seat" on their Harleys when I needed a ride). I've seen the good, the bad, and no, I'm not gonna lapse into total cliche, sorry. :)

I'm no priss who's looking down from his whitebread tickytack box on "real people". I've seen it all, and I've formed my opinions, and I've learned to trust my judgement -- and I think I'm a fairly decent judge of character. My proof? I'm still alive -- which is more than I can say for some of my friends from way back when. That's good enough for me. Maybe I am a "goody two-shoes" deep down inside. I never did time -- never "did the crime" either. But like I said, I've seen enough. More than most -- except for cops in "th' city" -- and "the bad guys" -- and guys who did ministry in bad neighborhood "coffeehouse" places.

Oops, I just outted myself. :)

Seriously, this kid looks like bad news on wheels, and I'd much rather read about him being frogmarched with a silly grin from ear to ear than hearing about him being holed up in some high school with bodies littering the halls.

That'd be bad for his victims, bad for society in general, and, dammit, bad for the RKBA, which really doesn't need any more crap of that sort heaped on its rep. (Even this bust is bad enough, and will give some ammunition to the anti-Second Amendment loons.)

56 posted on 01/28/2006 6:09:36 AM PST by Don Joe (We've traded the Rule of Law for the Law of Rule.)
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To: El Gato

Sure...but explain why he had someone else's gun. What was he doing with a surveillance system? Except for the pot bust, the cops basically have him on thought crimes. Granted, no crime here if he has the paperwork and bought the guns legally. That is the question. I don't know what the legal age for gun ownership is in that state either. Let's just say the incident is highly suspicious.


67 posted on 01/28/2006 2:40:20 PM PST by goresalooza (Nurses Rock!)
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