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Ready for $262/barrel oil?
yahoo ^ | 1-27-06

Posted on 01/27/2006 5:23:10 PM PST by LouAvul

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To: SoftballMominVA
Well if all of these are possible scenarios then bring on the technology that allows us to get oil from shale.

The problem with that is that it takes a substantial amount of energy to get those resources out of the ground. It may become feasable one day, but the "energy out" to "energy in" ratio will be nothing compared to what conventional oil is.

21 posted on 01/27/2006 5:33:37 PM PST by Mulder (“The spirit of resistance is so valuable, that I wish it to be always kept alive" Thomas Jefferson)
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To: caisson71

Agree


22 posted on 01/27/2006 5:33:49 PM PST by Paul_Denton (Stom ta jora Ahmadinejad)
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To: LouAvul

I can't see the market surviving $260 a barrel oil. Economies would collapse long before then, dropping the demand and the price.


23 posted on 01/27/2006 5:35:31 PM PST by Non-Sequitur
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To: Diddle E. Squat
Peak Oil is for the most part nonsense.

I know it's easy to toss around labels, but you should check out what Congressman Roscoe Bartlett has to say about Peak Oil.

He is one of the most conservative and one of the most intelligent members of the House.

24 posted on 01/27/2006 5:36:40 PM PST by Mulder (“The spirit of resistance is so valuable, that I wish it to be always kept alive" Thomas Jefferson)
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To: mkjessup

WHich is what we should do. Considering that China is already trying to secure it.


25 posted on 01/27/2006 5:37:17 PM PST by Paul_Denton (Stom ta jora Ahmadinejad)
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To: Mulder
Peak oil is a myth, the true supply is inexhaustible. Just takes more drilling and deeper drilling.

The supply is being held back to boost prices. OPEK is a price fixing cartel, and serves no other purpose than price fixing.
26 posted on 01/27/2006 5:38:18 PM PST by brainstem223
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To: Campion
$262/bbl oil is not sustainable over a long period

Oh, it's sustainable, just not in a "peaceful" world. I think the Resource Wars may start if oil gets that high.

There are plenty of other technologies -- coal liquefaction, biodiesel, and the like, that become profitable well before that pricepoint

People were saying that about $40 oil. Then $50 oil. Then $60 oil. And $70 oil. So where are our alternative technologies?

27 posted on 01/27/2006 5:38:53 PM PST by Mulder (“The spirit of resistance is so valuable, that I wish it to be always kept alive" Thomas Jefferson)
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To: LouAvul

What a crock. And these people are supposed to be smart investors. We would change to alternate sources of energy before it ever reached this high. Look what happened to demand in this country when Katrina hit.

Well before we ever reached this level, solar, wind, water, grain alcohol, shale and coal would become economically feasible.

This is nothing more than political fear mongering.

Personally, I wish foriegn oil supplies would dry up tomorrow. We would be fine and the ragheads could hump their camels for all I care.


28 posted on 01/27/2006 5:39:41 PM PST by babydoll22 (If you stop growing as a person you live in your own private hell.)
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To: Mulder
Oh, it's sustainable, just not in a "peaceful" world. I think the Resource Wars may start if oil gets that high.

Already starting. Just not a shooting war yet. Oil is why China backs Iran.

29 posted on 01/27/2006 5:41:00 PM PST by Paul_Denton (Stom ta jora Ahmadinejad)
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To: Non-Sequitur

Who knows what will happen six months from now, but the if you drive the price of a certain energy source high enough, new energy sources will take their place.

This could even be a good thing.

Of course humans never react well when there are limited resources, even for a short time.


30 posted on 01/27/2006 5:41:34 PM PST by Hawk1976 (Ideas got Republicans into office, new ideas will help keep them there.)
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To: LouAvul

I've burned about a cord of wood since the new year. I'm getting 3 cords of oak, maple and ash tomorrow at $75/cord. That should see us throught the end of April.

The prospect of not buying any heating oil this year eases the pain of speculating on the future price shocks.


31 posted on 01/27/2006 5:41:57 PM PST by Jack of all Trades (Never underestimate the speed in which the thin veneer of civilization can be stripped away.)
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To: Mulder

...would this be true if oil were $89? $111 or $262? At some point, it becomes financially feasible and the price of oil from the Middle East becomes someone else's problem.


32 posted on 01/27/2006 5:42:22 PM PST by SoftballMominVA
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To: LouAvul

Relax. The other posters are correct. At well below $200 a barrel, North America has enough oil to meet its needs for the next hundred years.


33 posted on 01/27/2006 5:42:35 PM PST by hinckley buzzard
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To: babydoll22
It seems to be the lack of incentive to develop such technologies. President Bush announced the recycling of nuclear waste to fuel in a thread earlier today (See Here) though. Shale currently requires a lot of energy to get the oil out while wind farms are still very inefficient. Still, coal gasification, grain alcohol seem feasable (although I am no expert).
34 posted on 01/27/2006 5:44:01 PM PST by Paul_Denton (Stom ta jora Ahmadinejad)
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To: Iwentsouth
"These good ole rich boys would not be trying to scare the little people because of politics now would they?"

You're right to some extent, but these "good ole rich boys" trade in short term commodities. They leverage their money by buying and selling option contracts which is most profitable in a volatile market. These jokers are using the media to cause volatility or add to it, so they can make more money.

They do the same thing in the currency markets - short the dollar then hit the financial cable shows with doom and gloom about the US dollar.
35 posted on 01/27/2006 5:44:08 PM PST by JeffersonRepublic.com (There is no truth in the news, and no news in the truth.)
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To: LouAvul

The stress is to much ... I am going to:
1. Jam miniature marshmallows up my nose and sneeze them out. See how many I can do at once.
2. Pop some popcorn without putting the lid on
3. When someone says "Have a nice day!" tell them I have other plans.
4. Make a list of things to do that I've already done.
5. Dance naked in front of my pets.
6. Fill out my tax form using Roman numerals.
7. Leaf through a National Geographic and draw underwear on the natives.
8. Drive to work in reverse.
9. Stare at people through the tines of a fork and pretend they are in jail.
10. Make up a language and ask people for directions.


36 posted on 01/27/2006 5:44:50 PM PST by svcw
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To: brainstem223
the true supply is inexhaustible

Have the laws of physics been repealed? Nothing is infinite.

1985 was the last year that we found as much oil as we used. Eventually, the crunch will hit.

Just takes more drilling and deeper drilling.

I don't think that is the case. If you are correct, why did oil production peak in the US in the 1970s? Why did it peak in the North Sea in the late 90s? And so on.

If it's just a matter of using a better drill bit, or more power to drive the bit, then production would have not peaked in all the places that it already has.

The supply is being held back to boost prices

Supply isn't being "held back". They can't keep up with the demand from China. This is a geological problem not a political one (like the 70s was), although it WILL become a political one.

37 posted on 01/27/2006 5:44:52 PM PST by Mulder (“The spirit of resistance is so valuable, that I wish it to be always kept alive" Thomas Jefferson)
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To: LouAvul

As is typical for it's blind thinking, GM is gearing up to offer a new generation of gas guzzling muscle cars


38 posted on 01/27/2006 5:44:55 PM PST by paul51 (11 September 2001 - Never forget)
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To: LouAvul

He forgot about asteroids plowing into the Earth, Super Novas, Aliens attacking....Have I left anything out?


39 posted on 01/27/2006 5:46:12 PM PST by Dallas59 ((“You love life, while we love death"( Al-Qaeda & Democratic Party))
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To: Paul_Denton
And China needs oil to keep manufacturing all that "stuff" and "junk" we buy at the dollar store that we don't need anyway..

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40 posted on 01/27/2006 5:46:32 PM PST by spectre (Spectre's wife)
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