Prisoner Of Pain

CBS News ^ | Jan. 26, 2006 | Deirdre Naphin

[robertpaulsen]

"If the detectives tracking Paey were following him closely enough to be able to determine exactly how many pills he purchased from January to March of 1997, then how is it that they were unable to provide evidence of even one sale, if he was actually selling?"

Simple. He stopped selling.

He was going through 800 pills/month (18,000 in two years, correct?). Starting in January (when the feds started tracking his purchases) he dropped to 400/month.

I say he needed 400/month for pain, and was selling the other 400/month. There's no proof of that -- the feds never caught him selling, though they don't have to. It's just my opinion and my explanation of the discrepancy.

And my explanation has more credibility than yours.

[JTN]

Simple. He stopped selling.

Just like that? For no stated reason at all?

And my explanation has more credibility than yours.

So you think.

[robertpaulsen]

"I said nothing of the sort, but since you're already assuming a number of facts not in evidence... there's not much point in discussing it further, is there?"

I don't know. Is there?

This guy's "pain management" consisted of forged prescriptions and you say that the state has no business "mucking about" in his activities ... well, what am I supposed to think? It's obvious that what he did was OK with you. What's wrong with my assumptions, based on that?

[robertpaulsen]

"Just like that? For no stated reason at all?"

Geez. Maybe he suspected the feds were tracking him.

Screw paranoia -- sometimes people really ARE following you.

[tpaine]

robertpaulsen:

--- my explanation has more credibility than yours.

So you think.
122 JTN

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He always thinks like that. Amusing, ain't it?

[JTN]

Geez. Maybe he suspected the feds were tracking him.

The government has to start tracking you before you can figure out that they are doing that. Why couldn't any evidence of any sales be found during that lag time?

[Mojave]

Why couldn't any evidence of any sales be found during that lag time?

After all, drug dealers are known for keeping paperwork.

[spunkets]

"After all, drug dealers are known for keeping paperwork."

#101 applies to you too.

[Mojave]

Thank you for your uninformed opinion.

[Vicki]

I don't have nearly the migraines I used to have and I can't use the new drugs like Imitrex. On the rare occasion (maybe once a year) I would call my doctor after having a migraine for 3-7 days I would ask for a mere 5 vicodins and would usually be turned down.

I think letting people go through pain is criminal.

[JTN]

After all, drug dealers are known for keeping paperwork.

Who needs their paperwork? You track the guy and watch him make a deal. There's the evidence. The government found no evidence that he actually did this.

[Mojave]

You track the guy and watch him make a deal.

Thank you, Inspector Clouseau.

[STD]

I'm a paraplegic because of one of these lesions. I went to six "pain clinics experts" from 1999-2002 before anyone thought of this possibility.

[Know your rights]

That the state is now giving him more painkillers than he was convicted of using is proof that his conviction was contrived

Proof is irrelevant to drug war True Believers.

[Know your rights]

if Paey was convicted on the reasonable inference that he sold the meds without any corroborating evidence, I think that GOV Bush should jump at the chance to pardon.

The 'beyond a reasonable doubt' standard ... another casualty of the War on Drugs.

[muir_redwoods]

As she was dying my wife was taking huge amounts of Oxycontin. It is a wonderful drug for those that need it and she needed it. Her breast cancer had spread to her bones (The pain has been compared to a whole body toothache) and then her liver and finally her brain. Until the cancer reached her brain, she was lucid and competent and even able to work and drive a car. Oxycontin never clouded her thinking, slurred her speech or slowed her down. It amazed me that she would daily take a dose of an opiate that would have killed the rest of the family but because she had a tolerance for it and because the magic of Oxycontin is the special timed release of the drug, she was able to take the drug and live a near normal life.

I have heard Oxy demonized as hillbilly heroin etc. but for those who need it it is a wonderful drug. Oxycontin made the last 3-4 years of her life livable, productive and added greatly to her simple need for human dignity.

[Know your rights]

I'm sorry for your loss ... and sorry that the pain of your wife and many others like her means nothing to Drug War bluenoses.

[JTN]

My sympathies for your loss.

[_Jim]

A casualty of the "War On Drugs"

A shot WIDE of the mark;

This is better portrayed as "A casualty of poor representation IN COURT."

[_Jim]

Sooner or later, all our families will face this outrage. The WOD is insane.

Hyperbolic and non-reflective of reality, non-reflective of the experiences our family has had, and I'll bet non-reflective of your actual experinece as well; simply extrapolating a singular, irregular, anomolous miscarriage of justice into widespread rampant prediction is reckless and irresponsible. Better to consider the indivuduals involved such as the prosecutor and the defense attorney. Both seemed to have pulled boners in this instance.