Posted on 01/27/2006 10:44:25 AM PST by NewJerseyJoe
Forrester was going to 40% in four years. Corzine 30% in three years.
The draft suggests no specific numbers of layoffs, nor amounts for pay cuts or tax increases.
The left wing voters did this to us!
Me too. You are right, a limousine liberal in the truest sense of the word. And Menendez replacing him in the senate was no surprise either. Bet my spouse that Menendez would be Corzine's choice and Corzine didn't let me down. /sarc
A majority of voters in NJ are caught in a wonderful cycle. Elect a liberal democrat, watch the liberal democrat raise taxes and increase spending, observe calmly as the liberal democrat gets caught up in corruption and/or otherwise runs the state into the ground, decry the corruption and denounce the liberal democrat, go to the polls next election and vote for, gulp, a liberal democrat. Repeat above.
I have a headache therefore I am going to beat myself in the head with a frying pan which will lead to me having a bigger headache so I will cure it by beating myself in the head with a bigger frying pan. . . .
I say let em raise taxes in Jersey! it will only bankrupt the state sooner and expose liberal financial policies for the folly that they are.
An excellent conveyance of the Liberal way of doing business.
I must be missing your point. Private corporations are phasing-out their old-fashioned pension plans left and right. As I understand it -- I'll know more next year, when my employer joins them -- as the companies' contributions are phased-out gradually, the vested workers' pensions are converted to 401-Ks (or something similar).
So, regardless of their numbers or length of service, unless those state workers you mentioned have some sort of special leverage, I fail to see why their mere presence should keep the state from phasing-out its pension plan.
Nothing is certain but death by taxes!
Yep, taxing society into prosperity is a folly that even a third grader understands.
Perhaps a third grader is needed...
Geeze, and I thought Massachusetts was a basket case. Too many people in the wagon and not enough people to push. So, they raise taxes and drive more people out of the state and so the cycle continues.
I used to live in Evesham in Burlington County--the town the President visited in a 2004 campaign stop (and every day, I'd pass by the high school where the Vice-President spoke). Good township schools, and I guess you have to have the taxes to pay for them (and I did vote for a tax to improve the high schools' infrastructure that was badly needed). When my employer in Lumberton was bought and subsequently shut down (did taxes play a part in the shut down? probably not--they kept the office in Sunnyvale, CA open), I ended up taking a job in Phoenix. The real estate taxes on my 2000 sq. ft. townhouse in Evesham were about 6 times the real estate taxes on my new 2600 sq. ft. house in unincorporated Pinal County. State income tax is lower as well, but I pay an extra percent in sales taxes. And it's 70 degrees here in the middle of Winter.
Well color me shocked.
I'm in heavily red Somerset County. We didn't elect him...
Kean is one of those very attractive NJ "moderates", beloved by the likes of Chretin Todd Witless, who is anti RKBA but probably somewhat to the right of Chaffee, Collins and Snowe. Given New Jersey's quintessential masochism, Menendez will probably win.
Good move, but PLEASE don't move to the Poconos -- getting WAY too crowded up there with those fleeing NJ.
"Good move, but PLEASE don't move to the Poconos -- getting WAY too crowded up there with those fleeing NJ."
LTS ripped me off about 15 years ago when I was thinking of moving there. I am thinking more along the lines of Scottsdale or buying property and building a house as well as putting numerous tree stands on my property.
they are too separate comments.
first, I don't see the state pension system being touched because the municipal workers are strong politically, and ever stronger in numbers.
given the large increases in their numbers, the long term pension costs to NJ taxpayers with all these new state workers on the payroll - is significant.
^Jeff
^I STILL live in Evesham (Heritage Village) and my property taxes have went up 40% in 5 years. I'm now paying about $4300/yr on a 1200 square ft house!!
^I paid off the mortgage just this week. Good news, right? Well, counting all the overhead on the place...excluding food...taxes now account for about 55% of my total monthly nut!!!
^Thomas Jefferson is rolling over in his grave! Hell, Ronald Reagan is too!!!
^Comrade Corzine cannot possibly be thinking about more taxes increases can he?
^Only when he's awake I bet!!
^Mike
I'm getting ill.
I wish I hadn't seen this. I KNOW he'll play games with taxes. If he taxes clothing, I swear I'll go over to Pa. and make all my clothing purchases THERE and whatever else he tries to tax.
I didn't vote for they lying scoundrel but this:
"For the current budget, the team recommended a series of immediate steps including a layoff plan, across-the-board salary cuts and a mandated extra vacation week without pay for state workers."
I agree with.
THIS:
"The report suggested expanding the sales tax to cover clothing; tanning, massage, limousine and cable services; and purchases from the Internet, including music and software downloads. If those failed to produce a balance budget, the report said, Corzine should consider a "temporary tax surcharge." "
I don't.
I'll go out of my way to have things I buy over the internet shipped to an address not in NJ. I wonder about the "cable services" - bet he hates FOX news on cable. That might lock some into liberal manistream media news channels - ABC. NBC, CBS - get the picture.
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