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Mexico-U.S. Relations Deteriorating
yahoo ^ | 1-27-06

Posted on 01/27/2006 4:03:49 AM PST by LouAvul

MEXICO CITY - It has been a trying week for Mexico-U.S. relations: a tense border confrontation between U.S. agents and apparent drug traffickers, a Mexican group's offer to print maps of the Arizona desert for illegal migrants and an exchange of terse diplomatic notes.

The administration of Mexican President Vicente Fox has its share of quarrels with other countries, but this promised to be one of the trickiest — involving the country's northern neighbor and largest trading partner at a time when the U.S. Congress is debating immigration reform.

For Mexico, migration to the United States is a mainstay of the economy; U.S. officials, on the other hand, see the issue in terms of national security and border safety.

"The situation is very sensitive, because the points of tension are very sensitive," said political scientist Oscar Aguilar Ascencio.

Not coincidentally, those issues have come to loggerheads just as Mexico enters the campaign season for its July 2 presidential elections.

Mexico's decision on Thursday to issue a diplomatic note asking U.S. Ambassador Tony Garza to stop making public comments about security and immigration issues may have more to do with domestic politics than anything else.

(Excerpt) Read more at news.yahoo.com ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Mexico
KEYWORDS: aliens; humaneborders; illegalaliens; immigrantlist; mapsformigrants; mexico; robinhoover
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1 posted on 01/27/2006 4:03:49 AM PST by LouAvul
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To: LouAvul

"Mexico-U.S. Relations Deteriorating"


Well duh!!!!!


2 posted on 01/27/2006 4:05:21 AM PST by Just mythoughts
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To: LouAvul

The best thing for mexico is for the country to colapse...but not before we build a wall to stop the flood of illegals. Mexico is too awash in corruption to develop. Sometimes its better to wipe the slate clean and start over.


3 posted on 01/27/2006 4:08:11 AM PST by Frenetic
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To: LouAvul

Build a wall. 20 feet high and 20 feet deep. And then a few land mines for extra security.


4 posted on 01/27/2006 4:08:23 AM PST by frankjr
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To: LouAvul

Build it now.

The wall.


5 posted on 01/27/2006 4:13:58 AM PST by samtheman
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To: frankjr

or take a hint from the yard bug guys and just spray periodically - leaves a protective barrier for weeks.


6 posted on 01/27/2006 4:16:00 AM PST by kentj
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To: LouAvul

Our national security types ought to be looking into the fact that Mexico is close to disintegrating and that this collapse will wash up on our shores even more than the what is happening now. At an unmentionable website a great case was made for the economic collapse of Mexico because of declining oil production, declining manufacturing and remittances drying up in a few years. All in all for Americans this will mean our borders will be swamped with low IQ immigrants by the millions more, and millions of middle class immigrants just smart enough to blame America for their situation all the while they live here.


7 posted on 01/27/2006 4:21:05 AM PST by junta (It's Jihad stupid! Or why should I tolerate those who hate me?)
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To: LouAvul

Our national security types ought to be looking into the fact that Mexico is close to disintegrating and that this collapse will wash up on our shores even more than the what is happening now. At an unmentionable website a great case was made for the economic collapse of Mexico because of declining oil production, declining manufacturing and remittances drying up in a few years. All in all for Americans this will mean our borders will be swamped with low IQ immigrants by the millions more, and millions of middle class immigrants just smart enough to blame America for their situation all the while they live here.


8 posted on 01/27/2006 4:21:24 AM PST by junta (It's Jihad stupid! Or why should I tolerate those who hate me?)
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To: Just mythoughts
illegal migrants

Ohhh, sigh. If only we in the USofA could just improve our laws, these MIGRANTS could overtake our country legally.

EARTH TO YAHOOO.....This is an invasion, and these invaders our footsoldiers in an attempt to dismantle our country. Try writing this story without bias.

How long do we have to put up with this BS bias until those who run things and write things stop misrepresenting what's happening?

9 posted on 01/27/2006 4:21:26 AM PST by grania ("Won't get fooled again")
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To: samtheman

Better yet. Invade Mexico and force regime change


10 posted on 01/27/2006 4:22:33 AM PST by saveliberty (Proud to be Head Snowflake, Bushbot and a new member of Sam's Club)
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To: grania

Even some on the left realize this mass migration from Mexico is a disaster. I just finished James Howard Kunstler's "Long Emergency" and while he is Center-Left in outlook he is more aware of importing Mexico's poverty (economic and cultural/political) being a danger to America's health than the Chamber of Commerce/Stoop Labor GOPers.


11 posted on 01/27/2006 4:24:21 AM PST by junta (It's Jihad stupid! Or why should I tolerate those who hate me?)
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To: LouAvul; Just mythoughts; Frenetic; frankjr; kentj
Mexico's decision on Thursday to issue a diplomatic note asking U.S. Ambassador Tony Garza to stop making public comments about security and immigration issues may have more to do with domestic politics than anything else.

Garza represents Mexico's interests...not the United States.

He married the wealthiest woman in Mexico last year.

He should have been recalled and stripped of his ambassadorship immediately.

Instead, he represents Jorge Bush's open borders...grab-your-ankles policy when it comes to Mexico.

12 posted on 01/27/2006 4:24:30 AM PST by peyton randolph (As long is it does me no harm, I don't care if one worships Elmer Fudd.)
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To: samtheman

Sorry, I am just fed up with the corrupt regimes that are the root of this problem. Mexico secures its border to the South. I had such hopes that Fox would clean it up, but no such luck.

I don't really want to invade but I do want the US to strongarm Mexico to reform or if not change regime


13 posted on 01/27/2006 4:24:32 AM PST by saveliberty (Proud to be Head Snowflake, Bushbot and a new member of Sam's Club)
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To: saveliberty
Fed up with corrupt regimes? Take a look at post # 12.
14 posted on 01/27/2006 4:27:17 AM PST by peyton randolph (As long is it does me no harm, I don't care if one worships Elmer Fudd.)
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To: peyton randolph

Then why is Condi Rice shaking up the Ambassadorships and diplomatic positions in the State Dept? Condi is a GWB rep, Powell was an appeaser.


15 posted on 01/27/2006 4:30:35 AM PST by saveliberty (Proud to be Head Snowflake, Bushbot and a new member of Sam's Club)
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To: Frenetic

A complete collapse of Mexico would bring about a host of problems, the least of which would be refugees fleeing north. Any pretense of law and order (which is already deficient) in the northern states would disappear. The sparsely populated region would be dominated by drug traffickers, fugitives from US law, and eventually terrorists seeking to hit us or wreak enough havoc to the south to prevent a stable government in Mexico City.

Should such a thugocracy appear on our southern border, we would have only one alternative: military occupation. For the purposes of protecting innocent people in the area, eliminating a haven for fugitives, driving out drug traffickers, preventing terrorists from moving in, and defeating any insurgency, we would have to send the Army south. The only question is how far south should the occupation go?


16 posted on 01/27/2006 4:32:02 AM PST by bobjam
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To: LouAvul

What was their first F'ing clue?


18 posted on 01/27/2006 4:34:20 AM PST by No Longer Free State (No event has just one cause, no person has just one motive, no action has just the intended effect)
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To: saveliberty
Then why is Condi Rice shaking up the Ambassadorships and diplomatic positions in the State Dept? Condi is a GWB rep, Powell was an appeaser.

Although I like Condi, the retention of Garza as our ambassador to Mexico is obviously a Bush call. Garza should have been recalled to Washington a year ago when the engagement was first announced. Condi has been SoS long enough that Garza could been recalled before now on her watch if Bush wanted it. This is not a minor conflict of interest. If we had full diplomatic relations with Iran, and our ambassador there married the wealthiest person in that country, you can be damn sure the ambassador would be recalled for a conflict of interest.

19 posted on 01/27/2006 4:36:48 AM PST by peyton randolph (As long is it does me no harm, I don't care if one worships Elmer Fudd.)
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To: wtp7

I agree


20 posted on 01/27/2006 4:36:56 AM PST by saveliberty (Proud to be Head Snowflake, Bushbot and a new member of Sam's Club)
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