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Expert: Georgia lost all its friends in Caucasus
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| January 27, 2006
Posted on 01/26/2006 11:14:53 PM PST by jb6
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posted on
01/26/2006 11:14:56 PM PST
by
jb6
To: jb6
Has Putin overplayed his hand? Will he cause Europe and other gas customers to find alternative sources? What are the options?
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posted on
01/27/2006 12:16:06 AM PST
by
Mind-numbed Robot
(Not all that needs to be done needs to be done by the government.)
To: Mind-numbed Robot
Has Putin overplayed his hand? Will he cause Europe and other gas customers to find alternative sources? What are the options? Let's hope Global warming kicks in soon so we won't have to rely on gas anymore for heating!
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posted on
01/27/2006 12:23:58 AM PST
by
PureSolace
(God save us all)
To: Mind-numbed Robot
I looooooove to read Russian state owned, communist mafia supporting sources. Georgia has no enemies in the Caucasus region except of Russian goverment and his two commie puppets, South Ossetia and Abkhazia.
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posted on
01/27/2006 12:30:28 AM PST
by
Lukasz
To: Lukasz
In other words, nothing has changed from the USSR days. But, back to my question, is there another source of gas for Georgia, Ukraine, and eastern Europe other than Russia?
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posted on
01/27/2006 1:14:29 AM PST
by
Mind-numbed Robot
(Not all that needs to be done needs to be done by the government.)
To: Lukasz
I looooooove to read Russian state owned, communist mafia supporting sources. So many adjectives in one sentence, your mind must be spinning.
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posted on
01/27/2006 1:14:51 AM PST
by
jb6
(The Atheist/Pagan mind, a quandary wrapped in egoism and served with a side order of self importance)
To: Lukasz
Georgia has no enemies in the Caucasus region except of Russian goverment and his two commie puppets, South Ossetia and Abkhazia. You would say that about elected governments, they're not your cup of tea, especially those who don't sell their souls to the Gay Parade that is the EU. Like you did.
Oh and for the record, Armenians are not friends of Georgia either and the Azerbajanies are lukewarm at best.
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posted on
01/27/2006 1:16:20 AM PST
by
jb6
(The Atheist/Pagan mind, a quandary wrapped in egoism and served with a side order of self importance)
To: Mind-numbed Robot
Yes, they're all in bed with Iran to make the Mullahs rich by running a pipeline up from Iran.
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posted on
01/27/2006 1:17:02 AM PST
by
jb6
(The Atheist/Pagan mind, a quandary wrapped in egoism and served with a side order of self importance)
To: Mind-numbed Robot
Azerbaijan, Iran and the rest of Muslim countries of the region could supply Georgia quite easily. Ukraine it is another matter, cause a pipeline from Georgia under the Blacks Sea is necessary. A lot of money, so I doubt that such project is possible in near future.
Eastern European states from the south, Bulgaria, Romania, Hungary might be connected with this region through Turkey (Nabucco pipeline project). I dont know wherever extending this pipeline further would be profitable from the economic point of view.
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posted on
01/27/2006 1:25:04 AM PST
by
Lukasz
To: jb6
That would include Putin too, wouldn't it? If so, that tends to undercut his power to use gas as a weapon against the republics. I must be missing something.
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posted on
01/27/2006 1:25:58 AM PST
by
Mind-numbed Robot
(Not all that needs to be done needs to be done by the government.)
To: Lukasz
Thanks. That is the information I was seeking.
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posted on
01/27/2006 1:27:32 AM PST
by
Mind-numbed Robot
(Not all that needs to be done needs to be done by the government.)
To: jb6
Yes, they're all in bed with Iran to make the Mullahs rich by running a pipeline up from Iran. From the Eastern Europeans perspective Iran might be more reliable supplier than Russia. Iran hasnt imperial ambitions in this region. So if US doesnt like it, then must offer something else instead.
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posted on
01/27/2006 1:28:38 AM PST
by
Lukasz
To: Lukasz
"So if US doesnt like it, then must offer something else instead." Oh you'll get something. Deal with the Iranians and you get a twofer...gas and extremism.
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posted on
01/27/2006 1:35:12 AM PST
by
endthematrix
(None dare call it ISLAMOFACISM!)
To: jb6
US friendship with the three countries in this region is strong. Georgia still remains part of the friendship with the other two via US. The other two cannot ignore this.
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posted on
01/27/2006 3:22:45 AM PST
by
Wiz
To: jb6; Lukasz
"Russia is a stabilizing factor not only in South Ossetia but in Georgia too." Just the way Russia was a "stabilizing factor" in Afghanistan after they invaded the country after Uncle Brezhnev told Jimmy Carter he would never ...lol.
Was Russian a wonderful "stabilizing factor" in Hungary in 56 & Checkoslovakia in 68, Poland in the 1980's? Jezz, that Berlin Wall, now that was was absolutely ...stabilizing.....
Russia's a real "stabilizing factor" with Putin's arms shipments to Syria, Hugo Chavez, and let's not forget 'rat boy' Ahmadinejad.
Iranian worshippers chant 'death to America' during Friday prayers in Tehran, Iran January 27th, 2006. REUTERS/Raheb Homavandi
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posted on
01/27/2006 3:31:34 AM PST
by
M. Espinola
(Freedom is Never Free)
To: jb6; Lukasz; endthematrix; Wiz; M. Espinola
Today, all the rest forces, North and South Ossetia, Russia, do categorically oppose to withdrawal of the Blue Helmets. The UN tyrannizes and violates Georgia with its Russian mercenary force while inside Russia's own borders the jihadists run wild and the world still waits for Putin to retaliate for Beslan.
To: Tailgunner Joe
"The UN tyrannizes and violates Georgia with its Russian mercenary force while inside Russia's own borders the jihadists run wild and the world still waits for Putin to retaliate for Beslan. That sums it up accurately.
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posted on
01/27/2006 10:54:33 PM PST
by
M. Espinola
(Freedom is Never Free)
To: Tailgunner Joe
Nice try. Those Russian peace keepers are there outside the UN mandate. The UN patrols on its own and is unarmed, the peacekeepers (Russian) are by agreement of the warring parties.
As for retaliation, well, outside of the fact that several hundred islamics have been killed (its amazing you never show up on those threads, even when pinging) the next strike would have to be in Georgia's Pankisy Gorge, where the Islamics have free access to the borders. I, personally, am all for taking out their camps on the other side of it.
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posted on
01/27/2006 11:20:48 PM PST
by
jb6
(The Atheist/Pagan mind, a quandary wrapped in egoism and served with a side order of self importance)
To: M. Espinola
Just the way Russia was a "stabilizing factor" in Afghanistan Wow, and did you know Breznov wasn't Russian? Oh, bet that blows your mind, since you are incapable of understanding (or just to hate filled and need to rage on some ethnic group) that the Soviets invaded Afghanistan. Of course the fact that it was the Pakistani assassination of the Afghan king in 1973 that destabilized the region is also to much for you to comprehend. Just like you can't ever compute the fact that the Russians were the main suppliers of our allies the N.Alliance who won the land war in Afghanistan to get rid of the Taliban.
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posted on
01/27/2006 11:56:32 PM PST
by
jb6
(The Atheist/Pagan mind, a quandary wrapped in egoism and served with a side order of self importance)
To: Lukasz; Cronos; x5452; Hill of Tara; RusIvan; GarySpFc; FormerLib; Honorary Serb; Lion in Winter; ..
From the Eastern Europeans perspective Iran might be more reliable supplier than Russia. Wow, how am I not surprised that you would defend this?
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posted on
01/28/2006 12:00:11 AM PST
by
jb6
(The Atheist/Pagan mind, a quandary wrapped in egoism and served with a side order of self importance)
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