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Fairfax Police Say Shooting Was Accident
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/01/25/AR2006012502245.html ^

Posted on 01/26/2006 2:14:15 PM PST by vrwc0915

Fairfax County's police chief said yesterday that one of his officers accidentally shot and killed an optometrist outside the unarmed man's townhouse Tuesday night as an undercover detective was about to arrest him on suspicion of gambling on sports.

Police had been secretly making bets with Salvatore J. Culosi Jr., 37, since October as part of a gambling investigation, according to court records. They planned to search his home in the Fair Oaks area, just off Lee Highway, shortly after 9:30 p.m Culosi came out of his townhouse on Cavalier Landing Court about 9:35 p.m. and was standing next to the detective's sport-utility vehicle, police said, when the detective gave a signal to tactical officers assembled nearby to move in and arrest Culosi.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Government; US: Virginia
KEYWORDS: bang; banglist; donutwatch; fairfaxcounty; jackbootedthugs; jbt; leo; libertarians; policetstate; shooting; virginia; warongambling
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To: Gordongekko909

We have come to treat a lot of police actions like miltary actions.

Crimes as this should not be delt with my a miltary type operation.

We have miltarize are police force due to the failed so called war on drugs.


21 posted on 01/26/2006 2:29:02 PM PST by riverrunner
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To: Gordongekko909
Overwhelming force in non military application's> innocents killed,lots of lawsuits, loss of effectiveness of the police due to resentment, police state
22 posted on 01/26/2006 2:30:56 PM PST by vrwc0915 ("Necessity is the plea of every infringement of human freedom. It is the argument of tyrants,)
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To: riverrunner

What, then would be the proper way to arrest people? Make sure that cops don't outnumber suspects to make it "fair"?


23 posted on 01/26/2006 2:31:17 PM PST by Gordongekko909 (I know. Let's cut his WHOLE BODY off.)
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To: Dead Corpse; vrwc0915
In October 1998, a Virginia Beach Police SWAT team conducted a gambling raid on the Professional Club on South Witchduck Road. A security guard, who was watching the door to the club, was shot and killed by police.

Keeping the community safe from gamblers ! /s

24 posted on 01/26/2006 2:33:08 PM PST by csvset
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To: Gordongekko909
Well it always worked for me to go up to their door with another unit, ring the doorbell and ask them to identify themselves and announce that I had a warrant for their arrest for fill in the blank and explain what the process was.
25 posted on 01/26/2006 2:33:45 PM PST by vrwc0915 ("Necessity is the plea of every infringement of human freedom. It is the argument of tyrants,)
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To: vrwc0915

The officer should be fired right away. He is going to cost the county dearly. Can you say 'civil suit'.


26 posted on 01/26/2006 2:33:48 PM PST by ozoneliar ("The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots & tyrants" -T.J.)
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To: vrwc0915

Insufficient force -> suspect thinks he has a fighting chance -> firefight, usually with a suspect who couldn't shoot himself in the foot without emptying an entire clip -> even more innocents killed. There was a thread on FR a while ago about British cops getting killed left and right because they couldn't match the force that the people they were arresting were using.


27 posted on 01/26/2006 2:33:50 PM PST by Gordongekko909 (I know. Let's cut his WHOLE BODY off.)
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To: vrwc0915

A police officer killing someone with one shot, of course it was an accident. Did the officer intentionally pull the trigger? That's a different question.


28 posted on 01/26/2006 2:34:17 PM PST by magslinger (If at first you don't succeed, squeeze, squeeze again.)
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To: Gordongekko909
What, then would be the proper way to arrest people? Make sure that cops don't outnumber suspects to make it "fair"?

So you think ALL arrests of any kind for any crime should be done with tactical squads with drawn guns? How about traffic stops too, while you're at it?

29 posted on 01/26/2006 2:34:20 PM PST by Strategerist
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To: Gordongekko909
Are you basing your statements on experience or theory?
30 posted on 01/26/2006 2:35:04 PM PST by vrwc0915 ("Necessity is the plea of every infringement of human freedom. It is the argument of tyrants,)
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To: Gordongekko909
There was a thread on FR a while ago about British cops getting killed left and right because they couldn't match the force that the people they were arresting were using.

If you read the article you see this was an undercover sting operation where a cop had a long-term betting relationship with the guy was killed, and presumably knew who he was.

The guy shot was a lone optometrist with no criminal record. What do you think the firefight odds were there?

31 posted on 01/26/2006 2:36:30 PM PST by Strategerist
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To: vrwc0915

Part theory, part what I've been told by police officers and military personnel. Zero percent experience.


32 posted on 01/26/2006 2:36:39 PM PST by Gordongekko909 (I know. Let's cut his WHOLE BODY off.)
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To: csvset
Because gamblers are known to be a viscious lot that'll kill you as soon as look at you...

It could be that they are all Ninja's as well and this justfies blowing them away if they fart in your general direction.

33 posted on 01/26/2006 2:37:05 PM PST by Dead Corpse (Anyone who needs to be persuaded to be free, doesn't deserve to be. -El Neil)
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To: Gordongekko909

actually for a victimless non-violent crime like this, you just go to his office and arrest him. Armed takedown for gambling? I guess next we will see armed takedowns of grannies for bingo.

I know there are those who never saw a police murder that wasn't justified, but the entire arrest tactic is completely out of proportion to the underlying crime.


34 posted on 01/26/2006 2:38:24 PM PST by WoofDog123
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To: vrwc0915

What the bleep kind of Keystone Kops are these?

They use the tac squad to serve a search warrant in a vice investigation?

Maybe they should have just nuked his house.


35 posted on 01/26/2006 2:39:23 PM PST by Mogengator
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To: vrwc0915
From The Article:

Police departments generally do not accept responsibility for an officer-involved shooting before an investigation is completed.

But of course, they don't usually have their guns go off for no reason while holding custody of an unarmed suspect.

36 posted on 01/26/2006 2:40:09 PM PST by CharlesWayneCT
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To: SmoothTalker
The officer should be fired. What a disgrace.

The officer should be shot ... an eye for an eye ...

37 posted on 01/26/2006 2:41:29 PM PST by hillary's_fat_a**
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To: vrwc0915

Of course..obviously we are dealiing here with one desperate hombre who will do anything to avoid capture. Besides the cops lost $5000.00, so now it's personal/extreme sarcasm off
Hopefully, by the time this is over, "Fairfax" will be known as "Culosi", owned and operated by the Culosis!


38 posted on 01/26/2006 2:41:53 PM PST by Frank_2001
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To: Mogengator
They were just pissed that he came outside so they couldn't do this:

Then:

resulting in this:


39 posted on 01/26/2006 2:42:46 PM PST by vrwc0915 ("Necessity is the plea of every infringement of human freedom. It is the argument of tyrants,)
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To: Unicorn
"they should have called out the army."

They should send the Tactical Unit to Sierra Blanca, Texas.

40 posted on 01/26/2006 2:43:23 PM PST by Deguello
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