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To: jennyp
Amazingly, creationists and the ID advocates - who are mostly political conservatives - largely agree with this moral subjectivism!

Wow. I don't know how long you tortured that logic, but I assure you, if it knew anything, it talked.

Creationists, generally being Christians, are, frankly, the biggest champions of the concept of absolute moral truth. Where you get this idea has me severely stumped.
19 posted on 01/25/2006 10:19:00 PM PST by JamesP81
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To: JamesP81
Creationists, generally being Christians, are, frankly, the biggest champions of the concept of absolute moral truth. Where you get this idea has me severely stumped.

Oh, creationists wish there were objective moral truth. But they agree (wrongly) with postmodernists that there isn't really any objective moral truth. Hence their quoting the Dostoyevsky quote in their FAQ #4 above: "if God is dead then all things are lawful." Creationists fear that without God the Authority Figure to provide a morality for everyone to follow, everyone'll just go off half-cocked with their own self-serving belief system, and inevitably fight every other interest group that follows their own private system of "truths".

The real world provides us with plenty of objective consequences to good vs. bad behavior. Everyone gets to see a society's basic animating philosophies play themselves out over time. This gives us an objective framework by which to judge & learn.

I see Creationists as being in the third stage of grief: Magical thinking. They think that if only we can get everyone to believe in this one God - and this one conception of God - then we'll all be on the same moral page again, and society's headlong rush into nihilism (caused by accepting "materialistic" evolution as stated in #15) will be stopped.

29 posted on 01/25/2006 10:57:14 PM PST by jennyp (WHAT I'M READING NOW: your mind)
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To: JamesP81
"Creationists, generally being Christians, are, frankly, the biggest champions of the concept of absolute moral truth. "

They are the biggest champions of their version of absolute moral truth.

154 posted on 01/26/2006 10:38:54 AM PST by b_sharp (Science adjusts theories to fit evidence, creationism distorts evidence to fit the Bible.)
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To: JamesP81
Creationists, generally being Christians, are, frankly, the biggest champions of the concept of absolute moral truth. Where you get this idea has me severely stumped.

The Christian creationists on the Dover school board certainly weren't champions of absolute moral truth.

212 posted on 01/26/2006 4:29:46 PM PST by Deadshot Drifter
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