Islamofascist Intelligent Design:
Posted on 01/25/2006 9:27:55 PM PST by Luis Gonzalez
Prof. Johnson is considered to be the father of the Intelligent Design movement. What follows is known as The Wedge Strategy, authored by Johnson.
In the words of the recognized father of the ID movement...ID is religion.
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I will toss my two cents in at this point. ID is not science, never was and never will be. It is not a theory and cannot compete with evolution since evolution is a theory and ID is not.
I don't recall a single instance of a scientific organization suing to force religion to be discussed at the pulpits.
"Evolutionism" is a scientific theory, competing against other scientific theories, in the scientific arena...that makes perfect sense.
What doesn't make any sense, is the idea of religion entering the scientific arena in order to promote the notion of an unknown power greater than ourselves being the creator/designer of everything.
So, if you believe in Creation, you cannot possibly believe in ID because they are absolutely incompatible; ID denies the God of the Bible by suggesting that the source of Creation is an unknown force.
If you believe in Biblical Creationism, then you KNOW that force; it isn't unknown.
Here is the science of Intelligent Design. Further research into the area of molecular building through genetic information - which is in it's infancy - are revealing mechanisms that require intelligent impetuous to explain complex interrelated systems which exhibit engineering at levels of magnitude beyond Random Mutations and Natural Selection + unlimited time's jurisdiction.
Islamofascist Intelligent Design:
And if you believe in Biblical Creation, then who is that intelligent impetus in your opinion?
I don't recall a single instance of a scientific organization suing to force religion evolution to be discussed at the pulpits.
Oh, creationists wish there were objective moral truth. But they agree (wrongly) with postmodernists that there isn't really any objective moral truth. Hence their quoting the Dostoyevsky quote in their FAQ #4 above: "if God is dead then all things are lawful." Creationists fear that without God the Authority Figure to provide a morality for everyone to follow, everyone'll just go off half-cocked with their own self-serving belief system, and inevitably fight every other interest group that follows their own private system of "truths".
The real world provides us with plenty of objective consequences to good vs. bad behavior. Everyone gets to see a society's basic animating philosophies play themselves out over time. This gives us an objective framework by which to judge & learn.
I see Creationists as being in the third stage of grief: Magical thinking. They think that if only we can get everyone to believe in this one God - and this one conception of God - then we'll all be on the same moral page again, and society's headlong rush into nihilism (caused by accepting "materialistic" evolution as stated in #15) will be stopped.
Hello Radio,
ID will be mathematically proven through continued genetic and molecular research to be the only explanation for the complex interrelated systems of life. Intelligent impetuous will be found to be a requirement.
Wait for the momentum to provide the necessary funding to prove this out before you declare it DOA. We are already beginning to see that a large segment of society's desire to see the work that will present a rational scientific investigation. The new money will give it a real shot at being checked into.
We will begin to explore that question when the science leaves us no other avenue. In my opinion, we are currently on the threshold of a scientific revolution.
Question for the day:
With modern dating methods, what age would a freshly created piece of matter date at?
Why some people are obsessed with Discovery Institute is interesting in itself. Unresolved issues.
LOL!!!
That has a Borg quality to it.
Communal common sense. :-)
The question was directed at you, not at the hive.
You defend the notion if ID, so, in your opinion, who is that Intelligence?
PMFJI, but what money???
The DI raises a million $$$ per year. Where are the scientific studies that they've funded? The Templeton Foundation asked them for research proposals, because they had supporters with money to burn who wanted to support the research. But the DI never got back to them with research proposals!
Why? An open debate and teaching is fair for the students. They are smarter than so many adults. And teaching ID isn't congress passing a law establishing a religion. Local schools have the right to teach ID. It's clear to see in the Constitution; no need "interpeting".
What do you think of postmodernism & ethical subjectivism?
What do you think of people on the right who agree with postmodernists' ethical subjectivism?
Not much.
So, you'd be in favor of giving equal time to the promotion of evolution during religious services?
For the sake of the open debate notion.
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