Posted on 01/25/2006 8:51:13 PM PST by Kaslin
FOX NEWS EXCLUSIVE
I doubt very much that I will see this anytime soon on the MSM outlets, but H&C had the EXCLUSIVE tonight with former Saddam General, Georges Sada, who is the author of the new book, "Saddam's Secrets."
View the video here
(Excerpt) Read more at msunderestimated.com ...
To be clear he said there was no Nuke program IN Iraq but we know Saddam had 28000 people working on weapons in Libya.
I don't know why it has been kept under wraps. I'm not nearly high enough on the food chain to be privy to that.
That's all I can say.
Bookmarked for later
Three mystery ships are tracked over suspected 'weapons' cargo
independent.co.uk ^ | 2/19/03
Posted on 02/18/2003 7:47 PM EST by knak
Three giant cargo ships are being tracked by US and British intelligence on suspicion that they might be carrying Iraqi weapons of mass destruction.
Each with a deadweight of 35,000 to 40,000 tonnes, the ships have been sailing around the world's oceans for the past three months while maintaining radio silence in clear violation of international maritime law, say authoritative shipping industry sources.
The vessels left port in late November, just a few days after UN weapons inspectors led by Hans Blix began their search for the alleged Iraqi arsenal on their return to the country.
Uncovering such a deadly cargo on board would give George Bush and Tony Blair the much sought-after "smoking gun" needed to justify an attack on Saddam Hussein's regime, in the face of massive public opposition to war.
The ships were chartered by a shipping agent based in Egypt and are flying under the flags of three different countries. The continued radio silence since they left port, in addition to the captains' failure to provide information on their cargoes or their destinations, is a clear breach of international maritime laws.
The vessels are thought to have spent much of their time in the deep waters of the Indian Ocean, berthing at sea when they need to collect supplies of fuel and food. They have berthed in a handful of Arab countries, including Yemen.
American and British military forces are believed to be reluctant to stop and search the vessels for fear that any intervention might result in them being scuttled. If they were carrying chemical and biological weapons, or fissile nuclear material, and they were to be sunk at sea, the environmental damage could be catastrophic.
Washington and London might also want to orchestrate any raids so that they can present the ships as "evidence" that President Saddam is engaged in "material breach" of UN resolutions. This could provide the trigger for military strikes. While security sources in London last night were unable to provide information on any surveillance operation, the movement of the three ships is the source of growing concern among maritime and intelligence experts.
A shipping industry source told The Independent: "If Iraq does have weapons of mass destruction, then a very large part of its capability could be afloat on the high seas right now. These ships have maintained radio silence for long periods and, for a considerable time, they have been steaming around in ever-decreasing circles." The ships are thought to have set sail from a country other than Iraq to avoid running the gauntlet of Western naval vessels patrolling the Gulf. Defence experts believe that, if they are carrying weapons of mass destruction, these could have been smuggled out through Syria or Jordan.
Despite hundreds of searches by UN inspectors, no evidence has yet been found of Iraq's weapons of mass destruction programmes. A succession of "dossiers" presented by Downing Street has been criticised for providing inaccurate information, with the most recent one subject to ridicule because a student's 11-year-old doctoral thesis was being passed off as current intelligence. There was a further setback for Washington and London when the accuracy of satellite photographs shown to the United Nations by Colin Powell, the Secretary of State, purporting to show Iraqi officials moving incriminating evidence from a suspected site, was questioned by Hans Blix.
Mr Blix said: "The reported movement of munitions at the site could just as easily have been a routine activity as a movement of proscribed munitions in anticipation of an imminent inspection." Attempts to link the Iraqi regime to al-Qa'ida and other Islamist groups have also been met with scepticism. The UN says, though, that Iraq has failed to account for 1,000 tonnes of chemical agents from the war against Iran; to reveal the whereabouts of 6,500 missing chemical rockets; to produce evidence it has destroyed 8,500 litres of anthrax; and to account for 380 rocket engines smuggled into Iraq with chemicals used for missile propellants and control systems.
Intelligence reports, and some Iraqi defectors, have maintained that incriminating material and documents relating to weapons of mass destruction have been buried in remote parts of the country and have also been hidden in a variety of locations including homes of officials and scientists, as well as mosques. There have also been claims that chemical and biological products have been smuggled into Syria.
good points all, fol are my thoughts on why:
747's - though the general didn't specifically say so, I inferred fm the exchange that this was on some sort of quasi-civilian run. 747's aren't in use for military transport; nor would the cargo have been identified if using civilian airlines (for obvious reasons).
But let's say we suspected this was going on; the question then becomes, did we have enough proof? Was the case strong enough to take action against civilian airliners, and what if we were wrong? It's hard to monday-morning quarterback this thing...
I've often used the term "vermin" to describe these enemies we face. It becomes less an analogy and more literal as the war progresses; for in this issue, it's almost exactly like what an exterminator finds when flushing vermin from a home - they scramble elsewhere.
Agreed, 110 Percent, Tap 'em Twice in Center Mass PING!
Great Video clip.
To freepers, can someone trim down on the file size to say under 5 mb. A freeper some where must have the software to trim it.
Then we can email this to thosands of free repubic mialing lists.
thanks.
The no fly zones didn't cover the entire country...large portions of the North and South..It was legal for them to fly in the remainder.
The War Criminal General didn't totally convince me either.
And he sure wasn't bothered by the fact that they used chem weapons on Iran, lol.
Iraqis, yes. Iran, no.
I thought it was a good interview.
Beckel wasn't just stuned. He slyly asked Sada if there was any nuclear weapons development left after '81. Sada only said, "Not in Iraq, no," which seemed to satisfy Beckel. Unfortunately, Sada passed up the chance to add: "...because the nuclear weapons development project had been moved to Libya." See:
http://128.121.186.47/ISSA/reports/Iraq/Sep0804.htm and http://FreedomKeys.com/whyiraq.htm
Hi there..
There were not 50 planes. Only 2 modifeid civilian planes (all seats had been taken away). The number "50" is concerning the amount of sorties. Thus, 2 planes did those 50+ sorties.
Whether it's 50 planes making 1 sortie each or 2 planes doing a total of 50 the idea is the same. The fact that 50 747 flights full of wmds could just be flown from Baghdad to Damascus and our AF did nothing is not exactly comforting. And like I said, I don't think Iraq had any 747s, they had russian planes to my knowledge.
It doesn't say much for our intel guys that all this happened right under our noses and we had no clue.
In the run up to war we had to have had satellites on Iraq 24/7. how did we miss this and if we didn't miss it, why did we ignore it?
I mean can you imagine the PR vbictory for the administration if they hsd forced one of those 50 flights down and exposed this plot for the whole world to see?
The fact they did no such thing makes me highly skeptocal of this?
Israel gained a huge boost after they commandeered the Karine A and exposed Araft's arms deals. If we jad done the same with one of the flights we would have been a lot better off and the WH could have gotten 100% public support. The fact that not one interception of any of these flights or massive cargo trucks happened is cause for reflection.
Sada was just on Hannity. He said it was one 747 and one 727 with all the seats taken out.
Now look at the map:
Tonight Brit Hume said Baghdad told the world the flights were disaster relief for the Syrian dam that had burst just beforehand.
To: CGVet58
All I'm saying is that this guy should be checked out much more throurougly than Hamza was and I'd be skeptical before I oredered any further military action based on info from former members of Saddam's regime.
And if we did let all this WMD get out than the Iraq war was a failure in an important respect. We have an air force, we had control of Iraqi airspace. What are we doing letting 50 747s make their way to Damascus. Did Iraq even have that many planes. They had virtually no air force and whatever they did have was Russian so I highly doubt this guy is on the up and up. Saddam didn't have 50 Boeings. If he had said 50 Ilyushins or 50 Antonovs than maybe I'd believe him. Where were the boys in blue while all these flights of WMD were taking palce? Twiddling their thumbs? This would have been a turkey shhot and it would have been easy to force them to land or take them out.
What good was takng out Saddam and putting up a democracy if he just gave all his WMDs to Hezbollah, AQ, Syria, Iran or whatver other Jihadist killers may have gotten their hands on it in the past 3 yrs?
This guy could check out, but 1 interview on Hannity and Colmes does not an unimpeachable source make.
good day, frater in libertas....
reading your most recent notes on Sada's reliability - and the overwhelming impact of what he has to say that not even the 5th column MSM can ignore - makes the spirit soar and the blood run quick!
It is a good day to be an American and a Patriot!
"Remember this:
Three mystery ships are tracked over suspected 'weapons' cargo"
Thanks Jambe for the memory jog. I'd completely forgotten about this.
The No Fly Zones were not patrolled 24/7. Iraq violated the zones hundreds of times from 1998 onwards. They knew how to play the game. Remember that the NFZs did not cover the entire country. The middle section of Iraq had no enforcement zone over it. That middle zone was right up to the Syrian border. Iraq even ignored the no fly zones with civil airliner flights and even Haj flights into Saudi. The Iraqi Air Force officer is talking about 50 flights - not 50 aircraft. Iraq still had a sizeable fleet of airliners at their disposal including Saddam's Presidential 747.
Up until the start of the conflict in March the Iraqi Air Force was still flying and generating healthy sortie rates. From about 1998 Iraq put everything they could back into military service. The embargo mean little as they could obtain lots of spares on the grey arms market.
Iraqi combat aircraft were still flying in the central zone up until mid-March 2003. None of these were intercepted, so why would an airliner be?
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