Posted on 01/25/2006 11:11:25 AM PST by Slump Tester
If you go to the link there are pictures.
Thank you for your service, Marine. And welcome home.
Some already did.
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Because no one else can understand what they went through, except those who also went through it. It's like trying to explain how it feels to give birth...to a man!
What an ass - he deserved a "attitude adjustment"
God Bless him and ease any distress he may have.
Of course they had to mention Vietnam.
Of course they had to call it PTSD.
Of course of course of course. Yea, left slant for sure. PTSD equals 30 points in the VA system. Made up BS disease. I just can't see Attila the Hun, the Vikings or Paw-knee Indians suffering form this so called psychological disorder!
This disease was borne from the vents of time where war was branded as all bad, never justified and soldiers suffered from this horrible disease and if they didn’t, then they’re mentally deranged evil war mongers. PTSD is a meaningless term. A pseudo-science BS concept.
Want to know why some woman got shot when a bunch of SF guys returned home from Afghanistan? Because their wives “Cheated” on them. But in the liberal media that’s spun into PTSD lowered their threshold to violence and caused them to act out where they might otherwise not have. BS! I catch my wife in bed with another guy, they’re both done – right there on the spot. I’ll drill them both.
PTSD! I want to vomit when I hear that expression. It’s about as trendy as some of those environmentalist issues that pop up, disappear and then get replaced by some other BS new trendy issue (What happened with acid rain?).
Death and dying is a part of life. You see it growing up on a farm – even if you just ever had a pet. This “so called” mental disorder is a fashionable pseudo scientific disorder which some conveniently have when going in for their Compensation and Pension evaluation at the VA. It’s a trend topic which the anti-war left likes to beat their drum to while not appearing at least openly anti-soldier. It’s a racket for a bunch of shrinks who make their living off of talking to people. It’s a “check the block” for the administration to CYA when soldiers come home so that when something does happen you can say “I provided mental health services!”
How many WWI Vets or even WWII Vets who fought in places like Guadalcanal or even on the beaches of Normandy suffer from this so called disease?
PTSD is a fictitious disease. Like some young kid who you indirectly led into believing they have been abused, you CAN talk people into believing that they have a problem, an issue or even a “disorder”. Just look at the hyper-sensitivity some African Americans have within our society. Every kid growing up WILL get picked on whether it’s for wearing glasses, being to fat, how you speak or yes, how you look. Get over it!
Red6
I think the liberals may use it for its own purposes, but it's real.
In WWI and II it was called "battle fatigue".
I know my Uncle did. My dad didn't, but he did harbor a severe dread of fire (having been on an avgas tanker in the South Pacific).
Of course, a manly man like you would never suffer from such a thing.
Young man sounds like he has his head on straight, and I'm glad he is home safe and sound. May God bless him and help him find the inner peace he is looking for, and may his family rejoice in his return. I think the Good Lord has already taken a likening to him.
When my uncle got home from WWII my mom once whistled to get his attention -- all perfectly innocent. He immediately ducked and then, shaking and very pale, slowly turned around and told her never to do that again. I don't think she did, either....
Humble ~ Bump!
The only person I EVER knew who claimed to suffer from this was a female sitting behind me at the Dallas VA hospital talking about how much she could squeeze out of the VA while talking to her boyfriend.
My grandfather went all through France and in Germany (Actually one of the early ones accross the Rhein) in WWII. My dad is Vietnam era, and I served in Iraq (OIF1) as an infantryman/Airborne Ranger. Can’t say I feel in any way that this “affected” me psychologically in some way. In fact I’d say that some guy working in a slaughterhouse sees more carnage than I did! And I supposedly saw a lot. What about people who work in a morgue? Ever see how chickens are slaughtered in mass, or cows? How about the job of “butcher”? And no, the fact that it’s a human does not change things a bit. It’s a bunch of flesh - bloody flesh.
(opinion)
Shell Shock, Battle Fatigue or whatever else you want to call it is a real phenomena associated with the long term over use and exposure to high stress some VETs experienced in previous wars. “You burn out”. You see the same thing with some people in high stress jobs who suddenly snap, dump their family, and end up living under a bridge down by the river. What we call PTSD is a made up disease that fits into some peoples political agenda, a few VETs pocket books and a pseudo-science shrink who thinks he figured something out.
I’m not saying that “some” may really have an issue. But they are few and many who do have issues figured that out after they were asked 20 times and realized that they can cash in on it. I want those with issues to receive the best care possible. However, I don’t think that it’s a big deal nor a wide spread problem. Just like the song from Paul Hardcastle “19” after which people wrongly quoted the average age of the US combat soldier in Vietnam to be 19, PTSD is a trendy BS disease in about 90% (Figure pulled from my rectum) of the cases. It serves the purpose of showing “How horrible war is” for the left media.
Red6
Those who were in and liked the military, go to combat and stay in afterwords seem to have fewer problems on average than those that bump straight out into the civilian world.
I think you are most likely right. We have a young man working for us back from his Iraq tour last summer, which also anded his stint in the Marines. He was gung ho when he went over and he came back without a scratch -- physically. But mentally and emotionally he is scarred. He lost 6 members of his platoon and he carries a sticker on his car with their names to remind him of them.
He couldn't go to the 4th of July celebrations last summer and no longer wants to hunt with his father. He used to be a Civil War re-enactor, and he no longer wants to go to those encampments. He can't seem to find a direction for his life, just moving from one thing to another.
He goes back to school this month and is working for us part time. We hope that as he gets into a routine, his life will straighten out. His dad (also a Navy vet) thinks it would have been better if he had stayed in the Marines and been debriefed by military doctors while still on duty and assimilated to civilian life with others who had been through some of the same experiences.
May God ease the transition to civilian life for both of these heros.
IN WW II, it was sometimes known as "shell shock."
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