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This is Pinoncelli. I couldn't find any images of the "Fountain" as I remembered it at the Pompidou some years ago: then it was a more modern urinal, hanging at an angle in the air. It looked nothing like Duchamp's Fountain which may be seen below.

I can't believe anyone would value that original urinal for almost $4 mil. Nor that it would cost $500,000 plus to fix it. Just buy another one. None of them are original anyway.

I am usually a big defender of the art world, but this is nuts. Pinoncelli is right. Duchamp would laugh out loud.

1 posted on 01/25/2006 9:18:55 AM PST by Republicanprofessor
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rejecting the defendant's contention that he had increased the value of the art work by making it an "original."

Now there's a Frenchman I'd buy a beer.

2 posted on 01/25/2006 9:20:15 AM PST by dead (I've got my eye out for Mullah Omar.)
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To: Sam Cree; Liz; Joe 6-pack; woofie; vannrox; giotto; iceskater; Conspiracy Guy; Dolphy; ...

Art ping.

Let Sam Cree, Woofie or me know if you want on or off this ping list.


3 posted on 01/25/2006 9:20:56 AM PST by Republicanprofessor
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Are you supposed to blow into it?

Inflatable urinals.

4 posted on 01/25/2006 9:26:20 AM PST by jdm
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He urinated on the piece during a 1993 exhibition in Nîmes in southern France.

ROFLMAO!

6 posted on 01/25/2006 9:34:55 AM PST by Age of Reason
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In an earlier era, this loon would be a candidate for Madame Guillotine.

Now THAT would be great live art.

Leni

7 posted on 01/25/2006 9:35:52 AM PST by MinuteGal ("FReeps Ahoy 4" thread is up. Click red "4" in Keywords list on top of "Latest Posts" page)
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"None of them are original anyway."

So the actual artist is the designer of the urinal, with Duchamp, rather than making art, making a social comment on art (or something). I can admit that it is kind of creative to offer a urinal as art, but in the same way that teenage boys do humorous, but rude practical jokes as a way to mock or defy authority.

Anyhow, that's a lot of money for a somewhat childish social comment. I guess that kind of valuation is some sort of comment in itself, though not a very flattering one on the art world. 'Course, I have no idea what DuChamps point was in the first place.

10 posted on 01/25/2006 10:00:44 AM PST by Sam Cree (absolute reality) - ("Reality is merely an illusion, albeit a very persistent one." Albert Einstein)
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11 posted on 01/25/2006 10:03:42 AM PST by PBRSTREETGANG
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Not entirely unlike the bombing of the Rodin in Cleveland. But the CMA just filed down the sharp bits and put it back on display, outdoors, right where the anarchists hit it -- none of this "restoration" business.


15 posted on 01/26/2006 4:06:58 AM PST by Caesar Soze
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"He cut off his own finger as an expression of solidarity with Colombian politician Ingrid Betancourt, held hostage by leftist guerrillas since 2002. "

As an expression of solidarity I didn't cut off my finger or any body part, but, man, was it ever painful for me not to do that! I figure that by not cutting anything off I am being truly 'original': taking the cutting edge beyond the cutting edge but people have not seen that subtle aspect it yet... Yeah know, they're just the cheap vulgar types that can't see beyond their bourgeois art forms... no vision... and they live such tawdry lives anyway.
19 posted on 02/03/2006 11:15:04 PM PST by Blind Eye Jones
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