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Why fear Iranian nukes?
Jewish World Review ^ | Jan. 25, 2006 | Tony Blankley

Posted on 01/25/2006 8:24:40 AM PST by jan in Colorado

A growing number of nations and international interests are expressing alarm at Iran's seeming intent to develop nuclear weapons. But why the world thinks Iran is developing such capacity, and what is to be feared from it, remain matters in wide dispute.

Israel, of course, is most immediately threatened and is least ambiguous in its analysis. A nuclear Iran, either out of calculation that it could win a nuclear exchange with Israel, or out of a fanatical derangement, clearly poses an existential threat to Israel. No Israeli leader could risk exposing his country to such a threat, if he could avoid it.

The United States, to a substantial extent, shares the Israeli concern. But beyond that, the U.S. as the dominant world power would have primary responsibility for managing a more aggressive, harder-to-deter Iran that might feel safer in using terrorism to strike the U.S. and the West, armed with a nuclear deterrent. Also, a nuclear Iranian regime would feel safer from a combined U.S. and domestic regime change effort.

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Strategic Forecasting Inc. (Stratfor), the highly regarded Texas-based strategic analysis group, has recently presented a completely different theory.

In their view, Iran's move is all about Iran's place in the Islamic firmament — and particularly her seeking pride of place over Al Qaeda as the leader of radical Islam.

Thus, by this theory, Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad very methodically went out to deny the Holocaust in order to reassert Iran's anti-Zionist credentials. The nuclear gambit, so it is reasoned, would have three goals: to be seen to end Iran's sometimes unprincipled accommodation with the West, to become Israel's greatest threat (and gain unambiguous power over regional Sunni states such as Saudi Arabia and Egypt) and to be seen to take unmatched risks for radical Islam.

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TOPICS: Editorial; Foreign Affairs; Israel; News/Current Events; Russia; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: ahmadinejad; blankley; gwot; iran; irannukes; islam; israel; jihad; mahmoudahmadinejad; nuclear; nuclearjihad; nukes; rop; saudiarabia; swine; terrorism; trop; waronterror; wot
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No matter what the theory, it always seems to come back to radical islam!
1 posted on 01/25/2006 8:24:41 AM PST by jan in Colorado
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To: jan in Colorado

let's just nuke them first an be done with it.


2 posted on 01/25/2006 8:27:15 AM PST by Kidan (Tolerance is the virtue of a man without convictions - G.K. Chesterton)
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To: jan in Colorado
Why fear Iranian nukes?

'Cause they give Americans great, big boo-boos, thats why.

3 posted on 01/25/2006 8:28:56 AM PST by ExcursionGuy84 ("Jesus, Your Love takes my breath away.")
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To: jan in Colorado
No matter how irrational, the largest threat is the present PC mindset, that compels the victims to suffer damage before taking action.

This will not work at the personal level, and certainly not at the international level where the surrogate army smokescreen is certain to be used.

In my universe, if my neighbor tells me constantly that he wants to kill my family and me, and keeps it up for years, I do not feel obligated or compelled in any way not to take preemptive action.

4 posted on 01/25/2006 8:33:42 AM PST by Publius6961 (The IQ of California voters is about 420........... .............cumulatively)
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To: Kidan
Plus one to your idea on that one!!!! A retard country like Iran with nuclear bombs is all we need. (sarcastic) Plus they also all ready said they would attack Israel. I think nuke the places with the bombs and then help the Iran people to be a democracy. I think if all the countries were a democracy then there would be no more terrorists. Just IMHO opinion.
5 posted on 01/25/2006 8:33:54 AM PST by Habble Gabble
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To: jan in Colorado

"But why the world thinks Iran is developing such capacity, and what is to be feared from it, remain matters in wide dispute. "

Terrorism was pioneered by Iran pretty much.
Does anyone in any government anywhere honestly think that Iran WOULDN'T use a nuke if they developed them?
They have airliners, they have shis, they have vehicles.
9/11 taught us that one doesn't need fancy missiles to attack another nation.
Imagine the mayhem if 9/11 had been a container ship coming into NYC with a nuke on board instead.


6 posted on 01/25/2006 8:35:43 AM PST by Darksheare (And baby says "RAAAAR!")
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To: jan in Colorado

Fortunately, it doesn't matter why they want nukes. They simply can't have 'em. I think our President understands that.


7 posted on 01/25/2006 8:35:50 AM PST by karnage
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To: jan in Colorado

Tony Blankley is, as always, excellent at cutting close to the bone.


8 posted on 01/25/2006 8:36:04 AM PST by Dark Skies ("A lie gets halfway around the world before the truth has a chance to get its pants." -- Churchill)
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To: Publius6961; USF; Fred Nerks; bayouranger
I do not feel obligated or compelled in any way not to take preemptive action.

Amen to that!

If 9/11 taught us anything, it's that we MUST defend ourselves BEFORE they strike!

Appeasement will be our undoing. God help us if the Democrats get back in the White House.

9 posted on 01/25/2006 8:55:56 AM PST by jan in Colorado (God Bless our troops and our President!)
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To: jan in Colorado

Because Iran is ruled by a guy crazy enough to use them regardless of the inevitable retaliation.


10 posted on 01/25/2006 9:06:07 AM PST by Paul_Denton (Tagine under repair.)
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To: jan in Colorado

Just for the record, I remember A-bomb drills back in the late 50's in elementary school (in Pittsburgh PA). We had to duck under our desks with our hands over our heads. The alternative: they lined us up on the playground and told us that if the bomb dropped, we had to evacuate the area in a straight line. People in Pittsburgh were told to head east toward Philly. People in Philly were told to head west to Pittsburgh.


11 posted on 01/25/2006 10:57:50 AM PST by Ciexyz (Let us always remember, the Lord is in control.)
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To: jan in Colorado; Dark Skies; Fred Nerks
No matter what the theory, it always seems to come back to radical islam!

Out of all the violent threats (some explicit death threats), abuses and replies I've ever received from RoPers, the one that sticks out in my mind and worried me the most came from a long time adversary of mine who I developed a very strange kind of personal "understanding" with.

He once said to me words to the effect of "you can kill Bin Laden, you can nuke Afghanistan or Iraq, but you are doomed to fail because it's more than the man, or a country, or al Qaeda. It's an idea, a mission from god [Allah]. You will never kill that."

Oddly, the two of us, enemies from opposite sides of the spectrum, agreed on many things but for very different reasons....

12 posted on 01/25/2006 11:01:20 AM PST by USF (I see your Jihad and raise you a Crusade ™ © ®)
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To: USF
It's an idea, a mission from god [Allah]. You will never kill that.

That's the bottom line...and, from that perspective, Ahmadinejad is perfectly sane (it is islam itself that is insane).

13 posted on 01/25/2006 11:07:26 AM PST by Dark Skies ("A lie gets halfway around the world before the truth has a chance to get its pants." -- Churchill)
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To: Ciexyz
Pittsburgh...did you say you are from Pittsburgh?

Hmmm....I know, off topic, but...Congratulations!

The Steelers... well, you know!

14 posted on 01/25/2006 11:13:24 AM PST by jan in Colorado (God Bless our troops and our President!)
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To: USF; Dark Skies; Justanobody
"you can kill Bin Laden, you can nuke Afghanistan or Iraq, but you are doomed to fail because it's more than the man, or a country, or al Qaeda. It's an idea, a mission from god [Allah]. You will never kill that."

This is what so many in this Country and throughout the world DO NOT understand! The ideology itself is the enemy, and it must be exposed and eliminated before there will ever be victory.

Freedom and islam cannot coexist.

15 posted on 01/25/2006 11:25:36 AM PST by jan in Colorado (God Bless our troops and our President!)
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To: jan in Colorado; USF; Justanobody
The ideology itself is the enemy, and it must be exposed and eliminated before there will ever be victory.

You and I have spoken for a long time about how muslims have no idea that their religion might be evil. It is like dealing with a drug addict...the addict can't see how awful his predicament is until he is sober.

Somehow islam must be exposed for what it is...the question is how can the muslim world be shown the truth?

16 posted on 01/25/2006 11:40:59 AM PST by Dark Skies ("A lie gets halfway around the world before the truth has a chance to get its pants." -- Churchill)
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To: jan in Colorado; USF; Dark Skies
The ideology itself is the enemy, and it must be exposed and eliminated before there will ever be victory.

Luckily, we have a President that understands this.

From his "lecture" at KSU Monday...
there is an enemy which is relentless and desirous to bring harm to the American people, because of what we believe in. See, we're in an ideological struggle.

It's very important for the students here to understand that there is an enemy which has an ideology, and they're driven by an ideology. They make decisions based upon their view of the world, which is the exact opposite of our view of the world.

17 posted on 01/25/2006 12:01:39 PM PST by Just A Nobody ("Iraq joins coalition to fight terrorism!" I - LOVE - my attitude problem! Beware the Enemedia.)
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To: Dark Skies; USF; Fred Nerks
Good to see you, Dark Skies. Yes, we have been talking about this subject for a long time now, haven't we?

"Somehow islam must be exposed for what it is...the question is how can the muslim world be shown the truth?

OK, I have never been a fan of political correctness, so here is one idea...

"We should invade their countries, kill their leaders and convert them to Christianity. We weren't punctilious about locating and punishing only Hitler and his top officers. We carpet-bombed German cities; we killed civilians. That's war. And this is war." Ann Coulter
This Is War, Sept. 12, 2001

The reality is, this can't and won't be done. Unlike communism, islam is considered a religion, and war will not be declared on islam. I believe the solution is just what President Bush is doing. Give Muslims the opportunity to taste freedom. As they experience freedom, they will reject islam, and the slavery which they have suffered under for far too long.

18 posted on 01/25/2006 12:14:48 PM PST by jan in Colorado (God Bless our troops and our President!)
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To: Justanobody
President Bush was awesome at KSU on Monday!

Too bad the Enemedia continues to ignore these inspiring speeches. Thank goodness we have Freepers to post live threads and transcripts. ;o)
19 posted on 01/25/2006 12:23:07 PM PST by jan in Colorado (God Bless our troops and our President!)
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To: Ciexyz
Just for the record, I remember A-bomb drills back in the late 50's in elementary school (in Pittsburgh PA). We had to duck under our desks with our hands over our heads.

We did the same thing in Detroit in the 50's - although our instructions were a little different:

1) bend over double,
2) put your head through your legs,
3) kiss your a$$ goodbye!

20 posted on 01/25/2006 12:29:30 PM PST by Tokra (I think I'll retire to Bedlam.)
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