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LIVE THREAD: Day ONE - Senate debate on nomination of Samuel Alito to SCOTUS: C-span 2; 9:30 am EST
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Posted on 01/25/2006 5:46:02 AM PST by ken5050

Good morning once again, all you fellow political junkies. Put on a fresh pot of coffee, put the sticky buns in the oven, put a fresh battery in the remote control, and join us for the latest episode of the world's greatest daytime soap opera, "As the Democrats Bloviate." Yup, once again, it's that time...


TOPICS: Breaking News; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 109th; alito; alitovote; scotus
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To: Arizona Carolyn

Salazar ran as a conservative Dim and he's acting like a true liberal. The reality is that any Republican who votes for anyone, including his own mother, with a D behind their name is an idiot. There are no conservative Dims for the most part because the commandants of the Dim party won't let them be.


1,901 posted on 01/25/2006 3:50:17 PM PST by tiki
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To: Arizona Carolyn

Yeah, he sure did. I made sure I paid my respects to him, even if I thought he was Perot's running mate. I even paid final respects to Paul Wellstone who I was diametrically opposed to ideologically and Colonel Hackworth who I rarely agreed with on certain issues.


1,902 posted on 01/25/2006 3:50:30 PM PST by BigSkyFreeper (Proud to be a cotton-pickin' Republican on the GOP Plantation)
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To: Arizona Carolyn; Conservative Goddess
Goddess, do you know how silly it sounds to say you are going to vote for a lib because you are mad that a conservative isn't as conservative as you wanted him to be in a state that is known for being very liberal in their politics.

Particularly after calling Santorum a fraud.

1,903 posted on 01/25/2006 3:50:33 PM PST by Dolphy
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To: Txsleuth
Well Tx one way or another Judge Alito will be in the audience. If he is in the balcony with Laura during the SOTU Address, the Dems are going to look like bigger fools then they do right now.
1,904 posted on 01/25/2006 3:50:58 PM PST by mware (The keeper of the I's once again.)
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C-SPAN2 unofficial talley of Senators' positions on the confirmation vote of Samuel A. Alito to the Suprme Court.


     Aye = 49                   Nay = 23
     7 GOP yet to commit:       21 DEM yet to commit*:

     Chaffee                    Akaka           Johnson 
     Collins                    Bayh            Landrieu  
     Smith                      Bingaman        Lautenberg
     Snowe                      Byrd            Levin    
     Stevens                    Cantwell        Lieberman
     Vitter                     Carper          Lincoln 
     Voinovich                  Conrad          Menendez
                                Dayton          Pryor 
                                Dorgan          Rockefeller
                                Inouye          Sarbanes   
                                Jeffords                   

     DEM Crossover = 1          GOP Crossover = 0

     Nelson (NE)

1,905 posted on 01/25/2006 3:51:11 PM PST by Cboldt
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To: CharlesWayneCT

True conservatives expect the party to operate from a core set of values. When they abandon or piddle on those values...yes, they can expect the principled among us to look elsewhere for candidates. The Republicans are going to lose elections, not because they are too conservative...but because they've tried to be everything to everybody. The big tent philosophy is what is killing the Pubbies. Here's a great piece, written by a local newspaper editor: A choice, not an echo....

http://www.pittsburghlive.com/x/tribune-review/opinion/columnists/mcnickle/s_415598.html

What happened to the principles of limited government and personal responsibility? They're no where to be found in the Republican party....this 'moderates are best' nonsense is precisely why the base is not energized to defeat dems. Moderates are an echo....not a choice.


1,906 posted on 01/25/2006 3:52:21 PM PST by Conservative Goddess (Politiae legibus, non leges politiis, adaptandae)
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To: Carolinamom
Perot is from Texas, Bush might as well be from Texas and I would say there well might be some truth to those stories.

I know I was shocked when I learned there was a strong link to Clinton and Perot and Clinton -- while being an immoral AH -- is a pretty good political strategist (blackmail works wonders) and I think there is a lot there on the Perot/Clinton strategy. Bush 41 was overall a pretty popular person and they had to use some shenanigans to beat him and knew Clinton, a virtual unknown, couldn't do it all by himself.

1,907 posted on 01/25/2006 3:52:25 PM PST by Arizona Carolyn
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To: Txsleuth
I heard on Hairball...that the dems are planning on holding out for a vote sometime NEXT WEEK...

so, I would answer NO...

Don't think they can hold the vote up unless Frist lets them. Think they know they lost and want to get this off the front page.

1,908 posted on 01/25/2006 3:52:48 PM PST by MNJohnnie (Is there a satire god who created Al Gore for the sole purpose of making us laugh?)
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To: Cboldt
The shaky seven.
1,909 posted on 01/25/2006 3:52:50 PM PST by mware (The keeper of the I's once again.)
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To: Cboldt

If Voinovich wants any Senate campaign money from the GOP, he will vote for Alito. Vitter better realize that the Louisiana storm aid can dry up real quick. I imagine all except Chaffee will eventually vote for Alito on the GOP side. Chaffee has a liberal electorate and is up for re-election this year. The GOP may give him the go-ahead to vote against Alito since they have Nelson on board.


1,910 posted on 01/25/2006 3:54:09 PM PST by Miss Marple (Lord, please look after Mozart Lover's son and keep him strong.)
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To: MNJohnnie

~LOL~ Only a lib can't think outside the obvious.


1,912 posted on 01/25/2006 3:54:21 PM PST by Arizona Carolyn
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To: Txsleuth

They are going to try something, I feel it in my bones. Probably have detectives out trying to find something, anything, to stop this. Where is Frist??????


1,913 posted on 01/25/2006 3:55:06 PM PST by Arizona Carolyn
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To: Miss Marple

The more they say the more they give themselves away. It's one thing to teach a lesson, another to shoot yourself in the foot.


1,914 posted on 01/25/2006 3:56:17 PM PST by Arizona Carolyn
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To: mware

Chaffee faces a primary against a more conservative Republican so he may shape up for this vote. I. e., vote FOR confirmation and IMHO FOR the Nuclear Option.


1,915 posted on 01/25/2006 3:56:38 PM PST by Otho
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To: mware

Chaffee faces a primary against a more conservative Republican so he may shape up for this vote. I. e., vote FOR confirmation and IMHO FOR the Nuclear Option.


1,916 posted on 01/25/2006 3:56:39 PM PST by Otho
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To: mware
Well Tx one way or another Judge Alito will be in the audience. If he is in the balcony with Laura during the SOTU Address, the Dems are going to look like bigger fools than they do right now.

I surmised last week that Judge Alito would be a special guest of the President at the SOTU, whether or not he had been confirmed by that date. May it be so.

1,917 posted on 01/25/2006 3:57:04 PM PST by Christian4Bush (Over THREE THOUSAND PEOPLE lost their 'civil liberties' on September 11, 2001.)
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To: Miss Marple

Vitter will surely vote for Alito. If he hasn't announced it yet it's likely because he's busy elsewhere. Voinovich wimps out sometimes but seems solid on judicial nominations. I think Snowe & Collins will support Alito. Chafee's 50/50.


1,918 posted on 01/25/2006 3:57:26 PM PST by puroresu (Conservatism is an observation; Liberalism is an ideology)
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To: Arizona Carolyn
Clinton probably twisted Perot's elbows enough to muck up a good thing and fracture the GOP base.

I have to hand it to Der Schlickmeister, he can easily make people make odd choices in their lives, more so than the Beast he married. Hillary! has no concept of strategery, lacks the charisma her rapist husband possesses, and is clearly dumb as a box.

1,919 posted on 01/25/2006 3:57:28 PM PST by BigSkyFreeper (Proud to be a cotton-pickin' Republican on the GOP Plantation)
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To: mware
The shaky seven.

I think all of them are going to come out solid in favor of Alito. The weak sisters from Maine will express some reservations, but will come out with some rhetoric (not necessarily logical) that justifies their position to the moonbats in Maine.

The others, even Chaffee, should be fine with little, if any explanation.

We haven't heard from DEM leadership yet today. That strikes me as odd.

1,920 posted on 01/25/2006 3:57:34 PM PST by Cboldt
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