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Canada/US Border Shoot Out: Guards Run Away
CBC Canada ^ | 1/24/06

Posted on 01/24/2006 11:16:12 PM PST by llevrok

Shootout closes Peace Arch border crossing Last Updated Tue, 24 Jan 2006 23:47:40 EST CBC News

A police chase at the Canada-U.S. border forced the closure of the Peace Arch border crossing south of Vancouver on Tuesday.

It also caused dozens of Canadian guards to walk off the job, fearing for their safety.

The incident started when two men, both murder suspects, tried to get into Canada. Officials say the two men, 38-year-old Ishtiaq Hussain and 22-year-old Jose Antonio Barajas, are now in custody. They are wanted on murder charges in California.

But the arrest didn't come easy. One of the suspects was wounded in a shootout with police.

U.S. sheriffs say the pair managed to make it to the check point about a metre before Canadian soil.

"They [drove] through the border and they almost struck two uniformed officers," said Bill Elf, of the Whatcom County Sheriff's Department.

The suspects continued northbound and struck the Peace Arch itself at one point.

Witness Bill Whittle didn't see the ensuing gunfight but he heard it. "I heard about seven or eight gunshots on the other side of the Peace Arch," he said. "One of [the suspects] was shot. [The police] got him out of the car."

Officials credit a brave deputy sheriff for single-handedly stopping the pair, who were considered armed and dangerous.

CBC News has learned that when unarmed Canadian border guards found out the murder suspects were coming their way they left their posts at four crossings along the B.C. border. Only two supervisors were left at each crossing to protect the Canadian side.

A spokeswoman with Canada Border Services says the guards have the legal right to refuse to work if they believe they are in imminent danger.


TOPICS: Canada; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: aliens; bang; banglist; canada; canaduh; donutwatch; fraidycats; immigrantlist; ins; trop
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Oh! Canada? Who stands on guard for thee ?
1 posted on 01/24/2006 11:16:14 PM PST by llevrok
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To: llevrok
38-year-old Ishtiaq Hussain and 22-year-old Jose Antonio Barajas

I wonder if they were legal. Hmm...
2 posted on 01/24/2006 11:18:41 PM PST by jamesm51
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To: llevrok

In their defense, Canadian Customs officers have been trying to get firearms for many, many years. Everytime the work-place safety committee says they should, and then everytime idiots in Ottawa turn them down. Hopefully the new Conservative government will think more clearly on this subject.


3 posted on 01/24/2006 11:18:44 PM PST by Threepwood
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To: llevrok

Are there any men in Canada left with the equipment that makes one a male?


4 posted on 01/24/2006 11:19:11 PM PST by vrwc0915 ("Necessity is the plea of every infringement of human freedom. It is the argument of tyrants,)
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To: llevrok

What's the matter, do they want to live forever? ...in Canada?


5 posted on 01/24/2006 11:20:54 PM PST by claudiustg (Delenda est Iran!)
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To: Threepwood

---In their defense, Canadian Customs officers have been trying to get firearms for many, many years. ---

No guns? That's insane!


6 posted on 01/24/2006 11:22:26 PM PST by claudiustg (Delenda est Iran!)
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To: vrwc0915
Let's be fair here. Would you stay at your post when there are two known, armed murderers heading your way and you have no weapons?

If you say yes, you're not brave...you're stupid.

L

7 posted on 01/24/2006 11:24:40 PM PST by Lurker (Liberal policies break hearts and destroy lives.)
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To: Lurker

In all fairness no, however I sure wouldn't take the job knowing I would not have the tools to do that job


8 posted on 01/24/2006 11:28:11 PM PST by vrwc0915 ("Necessity is the plea of every infringement of human freedom. It is the argument of tyrants,)
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To: jamesm51
"I wonder if they were legal. Hmm..."

Well, if they had gotten into Canada, I'm sure they would have been generously treated as illegals, put on welfare, and given a place to live until they were ready to return to their profession in the States.

Seriously, if they were murder suspects, they are not deported to the U.S. from Canada unless promises are give that they will not suffer the death penalty - glad they didn't make it.
9 posted on 01/24/2006 11:30:06 PM PST by Herakles
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To: claudiustg

Well..yeah. It is. The Liberal government was told on numerous occasions that the border was dangerous, and that the customs guys should be armed. They were willing to provide body armour, and collapsable batons, but nothing else. The reasons were, of course, stupid.

1. (This will make American Freepers furious!) The American Border service is already there, and are armed. The Americans can support our customs people if they hit the soup.

2. Well, we already have the RCMP. If there's a problem, we'll have them respond. The RCMP is sometimes 30kms or more away, and they aren't going to raise shot customs guys from the dead.

3. What sort of impression do we want to make on vistors to our friendly, open country? Not people with icky, *American-style* guns! Let's use this as a chance to stress how un-American we are to vistors (and save some bucks on training and equipment purchasing.)

These were also the people who made decisions about military purchasing and deployment. The rationele never changed, and as far as I'm concerned they have blood on their hands.


10 posted on 01/24/2006 11:30:34 PM PST by Threepwood
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To: Lurker
Let's be fair here. Would you stay at your post when there are two known, armed murderers heading your way and you have no weapons?

Agreed, we should be fair. It isn't the Canadian Custom officer's fault, the blame rests squarely on the previous regime in Ottowa. One would hope that the incoming Mr. Harper has been made aware of this, and takes the necessary measures...

the infowarrior

11 posted on 01/24/2006 11:31:37 PM PST by infowarrior (TANSTAAFL)
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To: llevrok

I talked to a Candadian border guard once while crossing the border. She was a real spunky thing. She made me take off my sunglasses for no good reason.


12 posted on 01/24/2006 11:32:29 PM PST by carl in alaska (The democrats did not invent treason, but they invented the use of treason as a political strategy.)
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To: jamesm51
I wonder if they were legal.

At least you don't have to wonder about the religion of one of them.

13 posted on 01/24/2006 11:35:44 PM PST by PAR35
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Neither would I. That just proves that neither you nor I are stupid.

L

14 posted on 01/24/2006 11:36:16 PM PST by Lurker (Liberal policies break hearts and destroy lives.)
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To: jamesm51
I wonder if they were legal. Hmm...

38-year-old Ishtiaq Hussain and 22-year-old Jose Antonio Barajas

Doubt it. I'm sitting here wondering about the "association" that the above names represent. Very interesting; and predicted.

15 posted on 01/24/2006 11:37:52 PM PST by garandgal
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To: llevrok
when unarmed Canadian border guards found out the murder suspects were coming their way they left their posts at four crossings along the B.C. border.

Unarmed? Thats not a guard, thats a Wal-Mart greeter.
16 posted on 01/24/2006 11:41:43 PM PST by Liberty Valance (Super Man wears Jack Bauer pajamas)
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To: HiJinx; gubamyster

Terrorist "suspects" struck the Peace Arch itself while roaring through the unarmed guards while fleeing into Canada from the United States. DC, we have a problem with our future Northern co-state.


17 posted on 01/24/2006 11:42:24 PM PST by NewRomeTacitus (Get new and improved 'Alien-B-Gone' ...pressure your Senators to pass the House Immigration Bill.)
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To: PAR35
At least you don't have to wonder about the religion of one of them.

You're most likely right. It's likely Jose is Catholic.

18 posted on 01/24/2006 11:42:41 PM PST by Antonello (Oh my God, don't shoot the banana!)
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To: claudiustg

Welcome to the socialist utopia.


19 posted on 01/24/2006 11:44:01 PM PST by Proud_USA_Republican (We're going to take things away from you on behalf of the common good. - Hillary Clinton)
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To: HiJinx; gubamyster

No, they were coming FROM Canada. I can't get any further information from that source.

Terrorists from Canada? Surely not. All the best OBLs tell us it's impossible.


20 posted on 01/24/2006 11:47:59 PM PST by NewRomeTacitus (Get new and improved 'Alien-B-Gone' ...pressure your Senators to pass the House Immigration Bill.)
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