Posted on 01/24/2006 8:36:47 AM PST by montyspython
Former Croatian General Ante Gotovina stands accused of war crimes in connection with a 1995 military offensive. Some 150 civilians were killed in the advance. Now, it looks like he may have had help from the United States.
His trial may not get started before the end of 2006 or the spring of 2007, but already the case against former Croatian general Ante Gotovina promises some surprises. Gotovina, who is accused of being responsible for the murder of at least 150 Serbian civilians and the eviction of some 150,000 Serbs from the Krajina region in August 1995, may have had some American help.
(Excerpt) Read more at service.spiegel.de ...
Quite simply, I was trying to get you to make a complete fool of yourself.
Given that you chose to compound your initial lie with further lies, simply digging yourself deeper into your hole until now you're questioning Milosevic's own witnesses, well, mission accomplished.
Yeah, you are.
The mass grave at Vidomiric is not "alleged", it's a proven fact.
I thought good Clintonistas could swallow anything!
Wasn't Wesley Clark the US commander in Europe in 1995?
He doesn't believe anything any Serbs says...unless he says something against another Serb, then Hoopy thinks he's the return of one of those Oracles.
Want to guess who cook Wes' pancakes for him?
We should all be chipping in to have a gold statue made of you :-D
"Quite simply, I was trying to get you to make a complete fool of yourself."
******* :)) Hoplite, it's impossible to make a fool of me. Do you want to know why? Naw...well, I'll tell you anyway. Let's say that I did some research and discovered that the testimony matched OSCE and UN reports. If it is discovered that I made an error or made a discovery that is contrary to what I was told or thought.....as a result of recent and unpublished testimony, then I have learned something. Ever hear of Glass half full or half empty...?? never mind, You're missing the glass.....
Ah, so we learn something after reading the "report(s)", and the perps are convicted, then we have "learned" something and maybe we, you, or I weren't correct. Then, you say, ah okay, mistake made, you learn the truth and move on. It's still a win win situation. However, you seem to be an all knowing individual that you accuse me of. Hmmmmmmmm....
A cliche comes to mind......."Thats the pot calling the kettle black".... better wipe the soot from your face.....
Probably Americans did not have interest to bomb them, but they will. Albanians are like their Chechen cousins – they are unable to live peacefully with their neighbors. Sooner or later they will clash with occupying forces.
Get on the same page as the rest of the adults and stop thinking small, then again retirement in a second rate trailer park is a measure of your lowered expectations in life, right small change?
Yes they will.......We've known that since 1999, but no one of course wants to hear it. They are keen with the UN and of course the U.S......(Bill Clinton Blvd and his picture on a very large building on the same street in Pristina).....until the Independence Issue is resolved. If they don't get independence, they will more than likely join with Al Qaeda. However, the Albanian Mafia has a Lobbying group founded here in the U.S.....Also, they gave 500K or more to the Democrats for the Kerry Campaign in the last election. These are just blurps of the past connections. There is a relationship between the CIA and the Albanians extremist.
If they do get independence, then they are going to want NATO out, ....and most of the NGO's that do not yield money in the pocket. The U.S. Stay.....
Then, they will target southern Serbia (East Kosovo) and will start wanting to annex from Serbia. Also, at the same time, Albanian rebels in Western Macedonia, which is heavy in Islamic Extremism, will start trouble. As a matter of fact 17 or so, members of MPRI was working with the NLA during the first Conflict in 2003. It was confirmed by several sources that the claims of the Macedonian security forces stating that the "NLA" was or should I say is not a "local" terrorist organization, but that it was established and led by centers in Kosovo.
The first operation in Macedonia failed, because of many reasons. One, for example, was that the different NLA factions started fighting each other...:))
It might be also noted that In western Macedonia many of their Mosques are very much like the middle east.
Kosovo goes independent then that will give Sandjak and maybe The Croatian Democratic Union of Vojvodina more justification to also become independent. They have stated that Croatian people living in Vojvodina do not have equal rights, and the party’s president Petar Kuntic back last year, I believe....(concerning the date); said that while these problems have been talked about earlier, no progress has been made in rectifying the situation.
Kuntic said that one of the main problems is that officials of Croatian nationality are not been allowed to become representatives in the Serbian Parliament.
“Affirmation principles have not been implemented for us, even though we are the second largest minority group in Vojvodina. By the current election laws we cannot have an authentic representative, and there are also a few more problems we have with regulations tied to our cultural autonomy.” Kuntic said.
This is the very simplistic version...... we shall see......I don't see that bombing will happen, but counter-insurgency might be. Wouldn't that be a hoot, the sides change and we join with Serbia for conducting counter-insurgency against Albanian extremist and Al Qaeda which is there also......mostly in Bosnia, Albania and Macedonia.
The monetary strings of the Albanian extremist are in New York and the UK. The head of this is or one of the heads is a person named Krasniqi in New York. They have very very close ties with Thaci and Ramush H. in Kosovo. Krasniqi has or had a very close tie with Holbrooke and the Democratic party with Kerry....interesting don't you think......:)
You and Tom are both liars when it comes to mass graves in Kosovo - that's what.
You see Wraith, to some, the truth is of paramount importance.
To others, like you and Tom, it's merely optional: Useful if it's on your side as you promote whatever interests you're pursuing, and to be ignored, obfuscated, or misrepresented if it's not.
You'll figure out which is actually the best way to go about things someday, I'm sure.
You have described yourself perfectly! Their are a lot out there who would agree. Their is no personal gain for me, I believe in the truth, the real truth before it gets spun for some political or strategic reason and thats all. Tom is the same way. You can't accept anything Hoplite....
You are an enigma, or is it, you are an "egnoramus".
Hoplite, I don't like saying this very juvenile "tags" or writing these useless and ridiculous posts that are a waste of time. We are on the verge of a nuclear exchange, war going on in more countries than Clinton has girlfriends....and a very unpredictable future. Here you are exchanging emails like you do....on a very professional site and viewed by thousands of people and who knows what status.....what are you accomplishing.
OH, I know your response...."I'm exposing ....whoever and whoever for the liars that they are"...I can hear you now....:)) It's about sharing info....learning...and uncovering the truth...that's it.
The mass graves.....it's never been clear..the point is, the Clinton Admin. said hundreds in graves, genocide, thousands killed..etc.... Yes, the Serb paramilitary's killed people. I have a Top secret document written in 1998 I "obtained" from Belgrade detailing this effort and five rules of engagement against the Albanians. The Serbs have identified the perps, and are going after them....
The KLA also murdered Serbs and they are finding "mass graves" of Serbs....since August 2005 as a matter of fact. the KLA massacres' included whole villages and they even killed the farm animals. They also murdered Albanians that were considered collaborators. The KLA also used dead bodies from the NATO bombing for "mass graves"....it is also possible that the Serbs took bodies to Serbia for hiding....the locations you mentioned were interesting and provided good info.....the issue of mass graves is very confusing and deceptive.
One thing we know for sure...there was not any genocide and mass graves in the sense that the Clinton Admin reported.
I've got things to do and will probably allow you the last word....:) but, I felt an obligation to write this......
Oh, I also know that you take some pride in getting people banned....as in the past....
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