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Bank Offers American Dream To Illegal Immigrants
Yahoo News ^ | 1/24/2006 | 10News

Posted on 01/24/2006 8:11:11 AM PST by Jhohanna

It's the American dream -- buying a home for your family. And now you don't have to be in the country legally to own one.

Wells Fargo is first major California lender to offer home loans to illegal immigrants, 10News reported.

"We're not required to ask the immigration status of any of our customers. That is the responsibility of the federal government," Wells Fargo bank representative Jerry Ruiz said.

The program is called "Celebrate Home" and Wells Fargo says it complies with all federal regulations, 10News reported.

Applicants do need a tax identification number issued by the Internal Revenue Service for people who do not have Social Security numbers.

Ruiz said the program is targeted to Wells Fargo customers who have been an account holder for at least six months and who can show proof of residency for two years in the United States -- along with proof that they have filed and reported income taxes using an individual taxpayer identification number.

There are an estimated 10 to 12 million illegal workers in the United States.

Critics say even though the program is legal, it sends the wrong message.

"Any time you have a bank institution lending money to help people buy homes when they're not even allowed to be in the country, it is something that runs contrary to the law. It aids and abets people who are breaking the law," said Ira Melman of the Federation of Immigration Reform.

A bill is being introduced in Congress that would make it illegal to issue loans to illegal immigrants, according to 10News.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; News/Current Events; US: California
KEYWORDS: aliens; ca; housing; illegalimmigration; immigrantlist; immigration; mortage
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To: Jhohanna


The FBI/DOJ Uniform Crime Reports break down (all) crimes this way:

Male
Female

Age Range

White
Black
Other

--

They do NOT list "hispanic" - or "foreign" or "illegal alien"

If someone with better access, contacts, etc. can find and figure how to deduct all of the illegal aliens in Federal & state prisons & city & county jails plus the number of violent & other crimes : murders, rapes, kidnappings, assaults, robberies, carjackings, etc. - from the individual and total crime & prison stats - I am positive that Americn blacks & of hispanic blood would see that illegal aliens are multiplying the crime stats that are blamed on USA minorities

Any crime is "too high"

But illegal aliens get a free pass and should be held responsible and the American public has a right to know and react and kick out these scumbags and they collaborators


Let us just say that a carjacker (illega alien) once attempted to carjack a BMW a "friend of mine" was driving

Four (4) instant .44-40 Blue Glasers to the upper body mass (Colt)

Case closed


Room temp


MoveOn.Corpse














181 posted on 01/24/2006 2:02:46 PM PST by devolve (<-- (-in a manner reminiscent of Senator Gasbag F. Kohnman-)
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To: clawrence3
Very funny - now, can YOU point to even one law Wells Fargo has violated? No one else here has.

Sure. Aiding and abetting criminal illegal activity. Next question.

182 posted on 01/24/2006 2:10:10 PM PST by OB1kNOb (.....And you KNOW what I'm talkin' 'bout !!! - Hitlery)
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To: OB1kNOb

That's great!


183 posted on 01/24/2006 2:11:47 PM PST by Travis McGee (--- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com ---)
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To: OB1kNOb
Why bother debating the Quislings? If the internet existed in 1940 and this was Norway, they would be posting about how *we Norwegians* should welcome *our Fraternal German brothers* with open arms.

Same $@!+, different invasion.

184 posted on 01/24/2006 2:14:57 PM PST by Travis McGee (--- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com ---)
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To: clawrence3

"Have a nice day" usually means you are leaving, doesn't it?


185 posted on 01/24/2006 2:24:24 PM PST by B4Ranch (No expiration date is on the Oath to protect America from all enemies, foreign and domestic.)
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To: Jhohanna

Accepting a phony ID is a federal offense?! Wells Fargo says they are complying with all federal guidelines, so perhaps you have the specific cite to this law you allege was violated or the federal government allows said ID for home loans (just like employers are not required to verify whether IDs are valid or not)? Do you really want banks to start enforcing other federal laws, immigration or how about drug laws - no one can get a home loan until they test negative for illegal drugs?


186 posted on 01/24/2006 2:30:34 PM PST by clawrence3
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To: OB1kNOb

What, like some conspiracy law - I will ask you if you want banks to test loan applicants for illegal drugs prior to approval as well?


187 posted on 01/24/2006 2:32:02 PM PST by clawrence3
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To: Travis McGee

I'm a "Quisling"? That's a new one. Didn't the "Fraternal German brothers" take over the government in Norway? You'll let me know as soon as we elect an illegal alien to the Oval Office, O.K.?


188 posted on 01/24/2006 2:33:44 PM PST by clawrence3
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To: B4Ranch

Well, I did have to leave there for a bit, but "Have a nice day" usually means I am wishing you a nice day. Perhaps I am missing something?


189 posted on 01/24/2006 2:34:58 PM PST by clawrence3
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To: Jhohanna

This is insane. I am in the mortgage business, and have yet to come across an illegal.

This should be prosecutable.


190 posted on 01/24/2006 2:35:35 PM PST by RockinRight (Attention RNC...we're the party of Reagan, not FDR...)
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To: clawrence3

There needs to be legislation that if you lend money to an illegal, you're fined the exact amount of however much you lent.


191 posted on 01/24/2006 2:36:36 PM PST by RockinRight (Attention RNC...we're the party of Reagan, not FDR...)
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To: Jhohanna
Applicants do need a tax identification number issued by the Internal Revenue Service for people who do not have Social Security numbers.

If they have this though, wouldn't that mean they're legal?

192 posted on 01/24/2006 2:37:13 PM PST by RockinRight (Attention RNC...we're the party of Reagan, not FDR...)
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To: Jhohanna
How do they secure the loan?

They must require lots of drug money in cash as a down payment so if they foreclose there is a profit.
193 posted on 01/24/2006 2:38:51 PM PST by A CA Guy (God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: RockinRight

I think ITIN numbers are used.


194 posted on 01/24/2006 2:39:02 PM PST by tropical
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To: RockinRight

Feel free to write your Congressman is support of such legislation. Until then, however, there is nothing illegal about what Wells Fargo is doing.


195 posted on 01/24/2006 2:39:13 PM PST by clawrence3
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To: A CA Guy

Wells Fargo is offering then 5% and interest-only loans - next racist stereotype?


196 posted on 01/24/2006 2:40:29 PM PST by clawrence3
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To: clawrence3

Already wrote the RAT bastard. Not that he'll listen (he's a lib D...not that most Republicans are much better).


197 posted on 01/24/2006 2:40:37 PM PST by RockinRight (Attention RNC...we're the party of Reagan, not FDR...)
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To: B4Ranch

Why bother engaging in honest debate with Quislings, who don't believe one word of the lies they spew?

There goal is the eradication of our borders, and the destruction of American sovereignty.

They just can't be honest about this.

There is a silver lining though: they keep the threads moving. Every reply means 15 more lurkers read the article.


198 posted on 01/24/2006 2:42:09 PM PST by Travis McGee (--- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com ---)
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To: Travis McGee

O.K., whatever - perhaps those lurkers will see the strawman argument you set up above about "Fraternal German brothers" taking over the government in Norway and realize no illegal (or even naturalized) alien can be elected President without changing the U.S. Constitution.


199 posted on 01/24/2006 2:44:18 PM PST by clawrence3
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To: clawrence3
5% down and interest only loans is dangerous.

The banks borrow from Federally connected institutions that in the end the taxpayers pay for like when Carter's 1980 bill gave us the Savings and Loan debacle.

I would have thought for them to make a stupid risk they would require at least 20% down in coyote money or what ever to account for a possible downturn in the economy and prices of homes.

I think this is in addition an alarm about how the banks are able to get their money right now to borrow to others.
Something is going to go bad soon with this kind of lending being allowed.
5% down and interest only to even Americans would be crazy unless it is secured with some other valuable thing.

This is insanity.
200 posted on 01/24/2006 2:45:52 PM PST by A CA Guy (God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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