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How Many Divisions Has the Caliph?
Tech Central Station ^ | 18 Jan 2006 | James Pinkerton

Posted on 01/23/2006 10:49:00 PM PST by Lorianne

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1 posted on 01/23/2006 10:49:02 PM PST by Lorianne
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To: Lorianne

In that map, I would but the eastern half of Russian, in which Orthodox Christianity has undergone quite a revival in the past 15 years, into the Western region. Though they may not be there for long as pouty Putin reveals himself more and more to be a Krushchev wannabe.


2 posted on 01/23/2006 10:57:21 PM PST by marsh_of_mists
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To: Lorianne

It will be reunited under the antichrist and the false prophet.


3 posted on 01/23/2006 10:58:18 PM PST by Rocketman
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To: Lorianne
I'm all for identifiable targets.

Nation states are much easier to obliterate than terrorist hiding within. Nation states have more to lose as well. That tends to tame them.
4 posted on 01/23/2006 11:05:38 PM PST by DB (©)
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To: Lorianne

It will be reunited under the antichrist and the false prophet.


5 posted on 01/23/2006 11:06:32 PM PST by Rocketman
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To: Rocketman

Considering I'm the Anti-Christ, and I don't want anything to do with ruling the world for its own good, everyone can sleep in peace for another millennia.




/blasphemy


6 posted on 01/23/2006 11:13:14 PM PST by coconutt2000 (NO MORE PEACE FOR OIL!!! DOWN WITH TYRANTS, TERRORISTS, AND TIMIDCRATS!!!! (3-T's For World Peace))
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To: Lorianne
An interesting picture (not from your link)...


7 posted on 01/23/2006 11:17:57 PM PST by CarrotAndStick (The articles posted by me needn't necessarily reflect my opinion.)
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To: Lorianne
The man continued, “I won’t live to see it, and my children won’t, but one day maybe my children’s children will see someone declare himself the caliph, like the pope, and have an impact.”

Like others will likely say on this forum, it sure wouldn't surprise me if this caliph somehow has the number 666.

Bush sure has the right idea if one considers a map of the area. By attempting to democratize Afghanistan and Iraq, he has divided Saudi Arabia from Syria and Iran, and Pakistan from both. It may work out that this has been a very wise move.

8 posted on 01/23/2006 11:34:34 PM PST by nightdriver
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To: Lorianne
One need only scan the headlines, detailing rising Islamic fervor around the world, from England to Chechnya to Indonesia, to conclude that something is stirring in the Muslim mind. Some say it’s a religious revival that will bring theocracies in lands Muslims control. Others say it’s the beginning of Islamic democracy.

Actually I've been noticing the opposite trend, the reduction of Islamic fervor (whatever the hell that is), as more muslim atrocities occur (when was the last GOOD news about Islam you ever heard?), more countries, cultures, and religions back away from Islam. Even muslims are starting to voice opposition to the tack islam has taken (about 5 years too late).

I think this whole story is 5 years too late, and the world's hatred and distrust of Islam is a seed sown wide and growing tall. The Islamic dominoes are falling, country after country they are being neutered and brought to heel, such that even Saudi Arabia is reigning in the Wahabists.

This so called religion can only be spread by the suppression of education, as the map posted by Lorianne shows. There are no highly educated muslim majority countries.

Islam is at its peak, and is starting its self destructive downward spiral. We need not worry about the Caliphate.

9 posted on 01/23/2006 11:38:35 PM PST by adamsjas
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To: Lorianne

Bwahahahaha. Japan and Southeast Asia parterning with China? Bwahahahahahah! Ignorant reasoning like that makes it difficult to pay attention to, let alone believe, the rest of the article.


10 posted on 01/23/2006 11:50:50 PM PST by Terpfen (Miami goes 9-7! Go Saban!)
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To: coconutt2000
The Reluctant Antichrist!

ROFLMAO!

Great line, mate!

11 posted on 01/23/2006 11:56:54 PM PST by SAJ
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To: Lorianne

bttt


12 posted on 01/24/2006 12:03:36 AM PST by nopardons
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To: Lorianne
China, for example, is pulling together a Confucian bloc in East Asia.

Oh, dear, this is embarrassing. Mr. Pinkerton is clearly out of his depth in this one. The Chinese are no longer Confucianists, and no one but the Chinese ever were. And their "bloc" consists of China, and...well, and a large number of neighbors who are economic and ethnic rivals.

Now, as to the putative Return of the Caliph - it is as unlikely as the Return of King Arthur. The Caliph of myth was deposed by the Turks, but not by Kemal Ataturk in 1917, by the Seljuk Turks in AD 1040. It's been that long since one Arab was both secular and religious leader of Islam, and for nearly a millennium the Turks prevented it from ever happening again. An Arab Caliph in a sea of non-Arab Moslems simply isn't going to happen - it's a fond memory of a mostly fictional glory.

In fact, a truly great Arab leader will likely have been elected, IMHO, that courtesy of an infidel named Bush who kicked the whole rotten old structure over. He won't be a Caliph, he'll be something better, he'll be a man. Or...well, you know, the Arabs used to have queens before Mohammed came along. Maybe it'll be a woman.

13 posted on 01/24/2006 12:21:22 AM PST by Billthedrill
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To: adamsjas

We might need to continue the worry a little more. Many people I am talking to in the U.S. and the UK are confirming that citizens are converting to Islam. They are not happy with "organized religion", and are "touched" by the "peaceful"? Tolerant? side of Islam. When, they have the converts fully under control then they are shown the Jihad.....They find the potential conflicts of a country and turn one against the other. Poor against the rich...the black against the white or whatever works.

From a friend today to whom is also on the same track....

He wrote:

Hey Tom,
I couldn't believe it. I drove down the street and at the stop sign a shady looking Arab appeared in front of my headlights. He likely was walking back from the convenience store in the dark. The ghastly image of this bearded Arab instantly took me back to Sarajevo where I saw exactly the same look on the faces of fundamentalists. It's a guttural thing. Once you experience it, you never forget it. They are infiltrating us all over the place. Keep in mind, I'm the lower FL Keys, on a Island. Another Muslim, who came from Bangladesh and made a fortune selling magic Chinese crayons to kids bought a house on my street that he now rents on short term basis ($2500 a week). Whether it be in Europe or here, they know our laws and loopholes better than we do and DO take advantage of them. You're right! It's only a matter of time.


14 posted on 01/24/2006 12:24:08 AM PST by tgambill (I would like to comment.....)
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To: Rocketman

It was created under the false prophet -- Mo. I firmly believe that REvelations showed what happened in the 600s


15 posted on 01/24/2006 12:31:02 AM PST by Cronos (Never forget 9/11. Restore Hagia Sophia!)
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We might need to continue the worry a little more. Many people I am talking to in the U.S. and the UK are confirming that citizens are converting to Islam.

There have always been a continuing (small) number of converts of disaffected people, and the difference is you hear more about them now because it is universally understood to be a sign of serious mental defect, danger, and membershif in the lunatic fringe.

In the past, nobody noticed. Nowdays society is watching.

Its one thing to grow up a Muslim. Most people do not choose their own religion. Its quite another to convert to islam. Converts are much more dangerous, and that is why society is watching so closely.

16 posted on 01/24/2006 12:32:46 AM PST by adamsjas
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Yes......agreed.. The Imams have also targeted prisons to convert African Americans, to Islam. Also, there is a Number....unknown but mentioned, of Caucasion women converting....

In Oregon there was a terrorist organization located in a mosque. They are now all over the U.S. even in N.C....



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17 posted on 01/24/2006 12:43:12 AM PST by tgambill (I would like to comment.....)
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To: Cronos
How so? What happened in the 600's that could have fulfilled what is written in the book of Revelation>

Are we then to assume that Chirst has returned and we are now living in the millenial kingdom of Christ?

I think you would have a tough road to hoe to make a case for that.

There is a man in Fairbanks Ithat beleives that all that is written in the book of revelation is spiritual stuff that is going on inside of him and every beleiver. He does not belevie in an antichrist he says that all of that is made up. He kind of took me by surprise with his views.

I don't think the Roman catholic church beleives that either. I have read on several catholic websites about the prophecies of St. Malachi that prophesy of the rise of the Antichrist coming during the reign of the next pope. They speak of the sacrifice of the mass ceasing and I have read about the coming destruction the Vatican.

So lets here about the 600's

18 posted on 01/24/2006 12:45:54 AM PST by Rocketman
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Its quite another to convert to islam. Converts are much more dangerous...

Many of the converts are psychotics and psychopathic killers converting because islam promotes the maiming and killing of human beings. Islam worships death. For example, many western psychopaths joined the KLA during the 90's because it offered them the opportunity to kill other human beings. In the eyes of the world community, killing the enemies of islam is no crime.

19 posted on 01/24/2006 12:55:49 AM PST by kimosabe31
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To: Lorianne

Latin America isn't part of the Christian Bloc. Russia leads the Orthodox Bloc in Eastern Europe.


20 posted on 01/24/2006 1:14:53 AM PST by MinorityRepublican (everyone that doesn't like what America and President Bush has done for Iraq can all go to HELL)
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