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Deny the Designer, Save "Science"
http://www.spectator.org ^ | 1/23/2006 12:06:59 AM | P. David Hornik

Posted on 01/22/2006 10:08:10 PM PST by Para-Ord.45

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To: Para-Ord.45

When you can teach HOW things works, I will listen.


21 posted on 01/22/2006 11:33:43 PM PST by Hunble (a)
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To: punster
"Evolution, itself, is actually very diabolicly clever.

Like all Satanic lies, just enough truth is mixed in with the error to snare the ignorant and the faithless.

22 posted on 01/22/2006 11:35:04 PM PST by TheCrusader ("The frenzy of the mohammedans has devastated the Churches of God" Pope Urban II ~ 1097A.D.)
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To: Para-Ord.45

sorry for the double post in # 17


23 posted on 01/22/2006 11:36:37 PM PST by TheCrusader ("The frenzy of the mohammedans has devastated the Churches of God" Pope Urban II ~ 1097A.D.)
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To: Nathan Zachary
Sounds more like religion to me.

That would be C1.

24 posted on 01/22/2006 11:37:52 PM PST by peyton randolph (As long is it does me no harm, I don't care if one worships Elmer Fudd.)
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To: TheCrusader
Like all Satanic lies, just enough truth is mixed in with the error to snare the ignorant and the faithless.

When you can explain HOW it works, then we will both know who was using distortions and lies.

So far....

25 posted on 01/22/2006 11:39:19 PM PST by Hunble (a)
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To: therut
// There is another reason Evolution is so protected. The Progressive Movements intellectual political ideology is based on it. ----- I know the rest of the story. Evolution is much more than science. It has spawned a world view that involves political thinking, morality--lack of, relativism, marxism, eugenics, euthanasia,abortion,child sex liberation, environmentalism and atheism.//

Yes, and at the core hatred driven fanatical atheism drives it all.

Wolf
26 posted on 01/22/2006 11:39:56 PM PST by RunningWolf (Vet US Army Air Cav 1975)
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To: Tzimisce
You CANNOT prove

That would be B4.

27 posted on 01/22/2006 11:40:10 PM PST by peyton randolph (As long is it does me no harm, I don't care if one worships Elmer Fudd.)
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To: therut
"It has spawned a world view that involves political thinking, morality or lack of, relativism, marxism, eugenics, euthanasia,abortion,child sex liberation, environmentalism and atheism. Just to name a few."

Exactly! This is why Karl Marx enthusiastically embraced Darwin's error, it helped further his cause against religion.

28 posted on 01/22/2006 11:42:38 PM PST by TheCrusader ("The frenzy of the mohammedans has devastated the Churches of God" Pope Urban II ~ 1097A.D.)
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To: fizziwig
Science is defined as naturalism"

Blech..I cringe at the thought of a nude beach full of nude, atheist, scientists...

29 posted on 01/22/2006 11:43:32 PM PST by Windsong (Jesus Saves, but Buddha makes incremental backups)
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To: RunningWolf
For years now, I have simply requested that someone explain HOW Intelligent Design works.

Why is that such a difficult question to ask?

30 posted on 01/22/2006 11:43:41 PM PST by Hunble (a)
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To: therut
It has spawned a world view that involves political thinking, morality--lack of, relativism, marxism, eugenics, euthanasia,abortion,child sex liberation, environmentalism and atheism.

That would be C5, C9, C10, and C13.

31 posted on 01/22/2006 11:45:21 PM PST by peyton randolph (As long is it does me no harm, I don't care if one worships Elmer Fudd.)
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To: TheCrusader
This is why Karl Marx enthusiastically embraced Darwin's error, it helped further his cause against religion.

C9

32 posted on 01/22/2006 11:47:10 PM PST by peyton randolph (As long is it does me no harm, I don't care if one worships Elmer Fudd.)
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To: TheCrusader
Ok, so God designed each and every form of life on Earth.

HOW did God do it?

33 posted on 01/22/2006 11:47:35 PM PST by Hunble (a)
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To: Hunble
"When you can explain HOW it works, then we will both know who was using distortions and lies.

So far...."

To finish your sentence, if I may:
"So far...Darwinism has been totally unable to prove its contentions, so it has had to revert to hoaxes like "Piltdown Man", and bungling 'evidence' such as the "Galapigos finch" dud.

"Evolution" isn't a science, it's a political, anti-religion movement that carries on in the atheist, Bible bashing traditions of its greatest contributor, Charles Darwin, and his accomplice, Huxley.

34 posted on 01/22/2006 11:54:59 PM PST by TheCrusader ("The frenzy of the mohammedans has devastated the Churches of God" Pope Urban II ~ 1097A.D.)
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To: Hunble
"HOW did God do it?"

How did NOTHING do it?

35 posted on 01/23/2006 12:00:53 AM PST by TheCrusader ("The frenzy of the mohammedans has devastated the Churches of God" Pope Urban II ~ 1097A.D.)
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To: peyton randolph

I am not arguing whether Evolution is correct or not. I am stating how it has been used to spawn a world view that effects many aspects of some peoples thinking. This is not nothing unknown. It is readilly admitted by many. Science is neutral. It can be used for good or evil. The scientists have allowed it to be used for things they should not. Read Citizenship and Democratic Doubt by Bob Pepperman Tayor an environmentalist. Read some of Wilson's political writings as a Professor before becoming President. Read some Dewey.


36 posted on 01/23/2006 12:01:19 AM PST by therut
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To: Hunble
We all ask the questions.

I will get back to the best I can.

Wolf
37 posted on 01/23/2006 12:03:30 AM PST by RunningWolf (Vet US Army Air Cav 1975)
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To: peyton randolph

I've seen many of the pro-Evolution posts that describe those who don't agree with them as stupid, ignorant, etc. I call that bile, and the evidence can be found on just about every Evolution vs. ID thread I've ever read.


38 posted on 01/23/2006 12:03:55 AM PST by skr ("That book [Bible], sir, is the rock on which our republic rests."--Andrew Jackson)
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To: TheCrusader
Evolution is the factual knowledge that all life forms on Earth have changed over time. That is an absolute fact and can not be denied.

If you are an exact copy of your Mother and Father, then please raise your hand. You will be the first biological organism in history to do so.

Anyone that dares to state that life forms on Earth have not changed over time, is using deception and lies for their own personal goals.

You and others have offered an alternative theory of how biological changes in life occur on Earth. I and others would like to know HOW this alternative theory of yours works.

Your first detected lie, was the statement that biological life on Earth does not change over time. How do you explain this deception?

39 posted on 01/23/2006 12:06:02 AM PST by Hunble (a)
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To: TheCrusader
So what about it? The very founding of the United States of America was also a "religiously motivated, political movement", that declared to the King of England that we have GOD GIVEN, INALIENABLE RIGHTS that supercede the Crown's rule of religious oppression and government tyranny.

I agree. I expressed this sentiment in the article to which you are replying.

Darwinism, the flimsiest of all modern 'sciences', is nothing other than a subversive cult engaged in the fine art of destroying the Christian faith.

This is not true. "I honestly think you ought to sit down calmly, take a stress pill, and think things over," as HAL said.

People are finally beginning to realize this, and Charles Darwin's 'evolution' will soon be rotting in the grave along with its Christian-bashing, Bible-hating founder.

"Eppur si muove."

40 posted on 01/23/2006 12:11:46 AM PST by dr_lew
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