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Is your firewall spying on you? [Zone Alarm gets rumbled]
theinquirer.net ^ | Sunday 22 January 2006 | Paul Hales

Posted on 01/22/2006 11:09:42 AM PST by B4Ranch

Is your firewall spying on you?

Zone Alarm gets rumbled

By Paul Hales, in Jerusalem: Sunday 22 January 2006, 12:39

IT’S OBVIOUS, REALLY, that the best way of penetrating users' PCs to see what they get up to online would be to become a Firewall maker. Like, when I wanted a Firewall and was too tight to pay for one, I turned to Checkpoint’s little freebie Zone Alarm. It sits there between you and the Internet and lets you know when someone’s trying to sneak in through your backdoor or when a program you’re running tries to connect to the Web for no apparent reason. When you’re as techie as me – not very – you just have to trust it.

Of course, Checkpoint’s an Israeli company and as a foreign journalist working in Israel you know the hyperactive security services here would like to keep tabs on you. And you know that they do. It has been confirmed to me by a security sources here that mobile phone conversations I have had have been listened to – and in circumstances which I won’t reveal, the contents of a call I have been involved in have actually been relayed back to me.

It’s part of the game – like the airport interrogation, or the surreptitious copying of your notepad while you’re off having a body search. You know what goes on but you have a job to do and just get on with it – hoping that what you get up to in the legitimate pursuit of your business won’t upset anyone to the extent that they’ll come break your door down and cart you off somewhere.

Now, the handsomely-named Mr Cringely has revealed that a colleague of his at Infoworld noticed that Zone Alarm 6.0 was sneakily sending off data to four different servers. Cringely says that Zone Labs (acquired by Checkpoint in March of 2004) at first denied the activity for a couple of months before deciding the software had a "bug" even though, as he points out, "the instructions to contact the servers were set out in the program’s XML code."

The company says it will fix the "bug" soon. In the meantime you can work around it by adding: # Block access to ZoneLabs Server 127.0.0.1 zonelabs.com to your Windows host file.

The "bug" seems to be present in the retail version of Zone Alarm, so there’s no telling what the freebie gets up to. We called Checkpoint here in Israel to find out, but were referred to a US spokeszoner. Trouble is they’ll all be in bed there on this sunny Sunday morning. µ


TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: computers; firewall; lowqualitycrap; malware; pc; privacy; spyware; zonealarm
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Does anyone know more about this?
1 posted on 01/22/2006 11:09:45 AM PST by B4Ranch
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Software firewalls suck. Nothing can beat hardware.


2 posted on 01/22/2006 11:12:28 AM PST by oolatec
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To: B4Ranch

BTTT


3 posted on 01/22/2006 11:13:46 AM PST by Fiddlstix (Tagline Repair Service. Let us fix those broken Taglines. Inquire within(Presented by TagLines R US))
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To: ShadowAce; N3WBI3; adam_az

Tech/security pings.


4 posted on 01/22/2006 11:14:01 AM PST by Salo (He hath touched me with his noodly appendage. Ramen.)
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To: B4Ranch; El Gran Salseron; GummyIII

Any thoughts on this???


5 posted on 01/22/2006 11:14:25 AM PST by StarCMC (Old Sarge is my hero...doing it right in Iraq! Vaya con Dios, Sarge.)
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To: B4Ranch
I don't know anything about it, but did enjoy once watching Robert X. Cringely® come completely unglued while trying to build his own airplane on PBS.
6 posted on 01/22/2006 11:15:23 AM PST by martin_fierro (00111100 00100000 01111100 00111010 00101001 01111110)
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To: B4Ranch

There is no place like 127.0.0.1


7 posted on 01/22/2006 11:15:48 AM PST by TommyDale
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To: B4Ranch
Veery Eeenteresting...


8 posted on 01/22/2006 11:16:34 AM PST by xcamel (Exposing clandestine operations is treason. 13 knots make a noose.)
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To: B4Ranch

I don't know anything about this in particular but I've found most of the time anything "free" comes with strings attached. It could be your email address is sold 4 billion times, you might get a spy, etc. Problem is that you don't know what you'll be getting as the string.


9 posted on 01/22/2006 11:17:23 AM PST by jwh_Denver (Don't be near Ted Kennedy when his liver explodes.)
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To: B4Ranch

All I know is that I've used ZA and Adaware in the past and had nothing but trouble with my PC. In May I had to reformat my hard drive. Since removing both and cleaning out the junk, everything is working fine.


10 posted on 01/22/2006 11:18:41 AM PST by alice_in_bubbaland (New Jersey gets the corrupt government it deserves!)
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To: B4Ranch
"Does anyone know more about this?"

Nope. I've had the freebie ZA since 2000. When I had dial-up, way back when, I could watch hit attempt alerts coming in all day through Zone Alarm. I like Zone Alarm. No problems with it and decent software protection.

11 posted on 01/22/2006 11:21:15 AM PST by sageb1 (This is the Final Crusade. There are only 2 sides. Pick one.)
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To: alice_in_bubbaland
You should have used Ad-Aware, not Adaware..

Adaware is "spyware" I had the experience
12 posted on 01/22/2006 11:22:53 AM PST by tiger-one (The night has a thousand eyes)
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To: NoCmpromiz

ping


13 posted on 01/22/2006 11:31:42 AM PST by DJ MacWoW (If you think you know what's coming next....You don't know Jack.)
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To: StarCMC; El Gran Salseron; B4Ranch

Well, I purposely don't upgrade everything as soon as the new upgrades come out just for this reason. I don't doubt this is true, and now that they've been outed, they'll "fix" it for the time-being. Of course, the author touted an easy fix. I can actually understand the freeware containing this "bug", but if one pays for the whole she-bang, then I think one should not have to worry about being watched. Having said that, don't do anything on a computer you don't want others to know. It's hard to hide.


14 posted on 01/22/2006 11:32:30 AM PST by GummyIII
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To: oolatec
Software firewalls suck. Nothing can beat hardware.

I build all my firewalls out of 7400 Quad NANDs.

15 posted on 01/22/2006 11:36:06 AM PST by palmer (Money problems do not come from a lack of money, but from living an excessive, unrealistic lifestyle)
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To: B4Ranch

For later.


16 posted on 01/22/2006 11:37:29 AM PST by lysie
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To: B4Ranch

This is the way to go with a Hardware firewall.

Good Hunting... from Varmint Al

17 posted on 01/22/2006 11:39:56 AM PST by Varmint Al
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To: jwh_Denver
No necessarilly. Free in the MS Windows world often means strings attached. But not in my world. :-)

OpenBSD
18 posted on 01/22/2006 11:50:48 AM PST by hiredhand (My kitty disappeared. NOT the rifle!)
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To: B4Ranch
GEEK ALERT!

If I can thread poach a little... I know some of the people on this thread are already "FOLDING" but for those who aren't, there is now a major project by FReepers and others regarding protein folding and distributed computing. The effort is dedicated to Ronald Reagan.

http://vspx27.stanford.edu/cgi-bin/main.py?qtype=teampage&teamnum=36120

FReepers are ranked nationally (almost top 400) in our efforts to help this massive science project. Please join us if you would like to contribute and "Fold one for the Gipper". Here is one of several threads that can help point you to start donating your unused CPUs if you are interested.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/1562606/posts

Callin' all GEEKS!
19 posted on 01/22/2006 11:53:59 AM PST by Drango ( No animals were harmed while producing this post)
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To: StarCMC

I don't want anyone to think I don't feel that this could cause anyone of us problems. I'm into amateur radio also and there are many out there listening including me. Get the best equipment that you can afford and feel comfortable with. Then pay attention to your computer and do all the checks regular. I've had problems with my internet connection that they were being to protective with PDF files on Adobe Reader and I couldn't download things. I found away around them and things work fine. Something could happen to my computer and I'll have to deal with it. Just my thoughts and good luck to you all. Good luck with avoiding the bad guys.


20 posted on 01/22/2006 12:06:51 PM PST by JOE43270 (JOE43270, God Bless America and All Who Have and Will Defend Her.)
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