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To: Elsie
Elsie - this question is seriously asked - are you just looking for something to disagree with me about, or do you have some as-of-yet unstated fundamental difference with me? Since we don't even know each other, I find the latter hard to believe, but if so, tell me.

And, yes, Jesus did tell us to keep the Commandments. If you have a specific question about #10, go to Deuteronomy 5, and let me know specifically what your question is.
490 posted on 01/26/2006 5:14:39 PM PST by SuzyQue
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To: SuzyQue
No, I'm not just trying to be argumentative, but to get to a deeper understanding of the Scriptures.
 
 
 
And, yes, Jesus did tell us to keep the Commandments.
 
 
I asked about TEN, and you send me to Duet 5  (It's also in Ex 20)
 
I'll bet that the following verses make you think that the 10 extend to us today, don't you?
 
 

NIV Matthew 5:17-20
 17.  "Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them.
 18.  I tell you the truth, until heaven and earth disappear, not the smallest letter, not the least stroke of a pen, will by any means disappear from the Law until everything is accomplished.
 19.  Anyone who breaks one of the least of these commandments and teaches others to do the same will be called least in the kingdom of heaven, but whoever practices and teaches these commands will be called great in the kingdom of heaven.
 20.  For I tell you that unless your righteousness surpasses that of the Pharisees and the teachers of the law, you will certainly not enter the kingdom of heaven. 

 Could you consider the following for a moment?
 
 
 
NIV Matthew 19:16-26
 16.  Now a man came up to Jesus and asked, "Teacher, what good thing must I do to get eternal life?"
 17.  "Why do you ask me about what is good?" Jesus replied. "There is only One who is good. If you want to enter life, obey the commandments."
 18.  "Which ones?" the man inquired.   Jesus replied, "`Do not murder, do not commit adultery, do not steal, do not give false testimony,
 19.  honor your father and mother,'  and `love your neighbor as yourself.' "
 20.  "All these I have kept," the young man said. "What do I still lack?"
 21.  Jesus answered, "If you want to be perfect, go, sell your possessions and give to the poor, and you will have treasure in heaven. Then come, follow me."
 22.  When the young man heard this, he went away sad, because he had great wealth.
 23.  Then Jesus said to his disciples, "I tell you the truth, it is hard for a rich man to enter the kingdom of heaven.
 24.  Again I tell you, it is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to enter the kingdom of God."
 25.  When the disciples heard this, they were greatly astonished and asked, "Who then can be saved?"
 26.  Jesus looked at them and said, "With man this is impossible, but with God all things are possible." 
 
 
NIV Mark 10:17-28
 17.  As Jesus started on his way, a man ran up to him and fell on his knees before him. "Good teacher," he asked, "what must I do to inherit eternal life?"
 18.  "Why do you call me good?" Jesus answered. "No one is good--except God alone.
 19.  You know the commandments: `Do not murder, do not commit adultery, do not steal, do not give false testimony, do not defraud, honor your father and mother.' "
 20.  "Teacher," he declared, "all these I have kept since I was a boy."
 21.  Jesus looked at him and loved him. "One thing you lack," he said. "Go, sell everything you have and give to the poor, and you will have treasure in heaven. Then come, follow me." 
 22.  At this the man's face fell. He went away sad, because he had great wealth.
 23.  Jesus looked around and said to his disciples, "How hard it is for the rich to enter the kingdom of God!"
 24.  The disciples were amazed at his words. But Jesus said again, "Children, how hard it is  to enter the kingdom of God!
 25.  It is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to enter the kingdom of God."
 26.  The disciples were even more amazed, and said to each other, "Who then can be saved?"
 27.  Jesus looked at them and said, "With man this is impossible, but not with God; all things are possible with God." 
 NIV Luke 18:18-27
 18.  A certain ruler asked him, "Good teacher, what must I do to inherit eternal life?"
 19.  "Why do you call me good?" Jesus answered. "No one is good--except God alone.
 20.  You know the commandments: `Do not commit adultery, do not murder, do not steal, do not give false testimony, honor your father and mother.' "
 21.  "All these I have kept since I was a boy," he said.
 22.  When Jesus heard this, he said to him, "You still lack one thing. Sell everything you have and give to the poor, and you will have treasure in heaven. Then come, follow me."
 23.  When he heard this, he became very sad, because he was a man of great wealth.
 24.  Jesus looked at him and said, "How hard it is for the rich to enter the kingdom of God!
 25.  Indeed, it is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to enter the kingdom of God."
 26.  Those who heard this asked, "Who then can be saved?"
 27.  Jesus replied, "What is impossible with men is possible with God."


 Notice that Jesus ONLY mentioned FIVE of the Decalog and then told the rich young ruler that it STILL wasn't enough!
Strange comments if we are to keep the ten......
 
 
 
NIV John 8:1-12
 1.  But Jesus went to the Mount of Olives.
 2.  At dawn he appeared again in the temple courts, where all the people gathered around him, and he sat down to teach them.
 3.  The teachers of the law and the Pharisees brought in a woman caught in adultery. They made her stand before the group
 4.  and said to Jesus, "Teacher, this woman was caught in the act of adultery.
 5.  In the Law Moses commanded us to stone such women. Now what do you say?"
 6.  They were using this question as a trap, in order to have a basis for accusing him.   But Jesus bent down and started to write on the ground with his finger.
 7.  When they kept on questioning him, he straightened up and said to them, "If any one of you is without sin, let him be the first to throw a stone at her."
 8.  Again he stooped down and wrote on the ground.
 9.  At this, those who heard began to go away one at a time, the older ones first, until only Jesus was left, with the woman still standing there.
 10.  Jesus straightened up and asked her, "Woman, where are they? Has no one condemned you?"
 11.  "No one, sir," she said.   "Then neither do I condemn you," Jesus declared. "Go now and leave your life of sin." ----------
 
If the LAW was so important, why didn't JESUS stone this woman?  After all, He met the criteria he set forward: without sin.
Isn't the LAW to be 'obeyed' or not?
 
 
 
Now let's look at these verses.
 

NIV Matthew 22:34-41
 34.  Hearing that Jesus had silenced the Sadducees, the Pharisees got together.
 35.  One of them, an expert in the law, tested him with this question:
 36.  "Teacher, which is the greatest commandment in the Law?"
 37.  Jesus replied: "`Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind.'
 38.  This is the first and greatest commandment.
 39.  And the second is like it: `Love your neighbor as yourself.'
 40.  All the Law and the Prophets hang on these two commandments."
NIV Mark 12:28-34
28.  One of the teachers of the law came and heard them debating. Noticing that Jesus had given them a good answer, he asked him, "Of all the commandments, which is the most important?"
 29.  "The most important one," answered Jesus, "is this: `Hear, O Israel, the Lord our God, the Lord is one.
 30.  Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind and with all your strength.'
 31.  The second is this: `Love your neighbor as yourself.' There is no commandment greater than these."
 32.  "Well said, teacher," the man replied. "You are right in saying that God is one and there is no other but him.
 33.  To love him with all your heart, with all your understanding and with all your strength, and to love your neighbor as yourself is more important than all burnt offerings and sacrifices."
 34.  When Jesus saw that he had answered wisely, he said to him, "You are not far from the kingdom of God." And from then on no one dared ask him any more questions.
 
 
 
 
NIV John 13:34-35
 34.  "A new command I give you: Love one another. As I have loved you, so you must love one another.
 35.  By this all men will know that you are my disciples, if you love one another."
 

NIV John 14:15
   "If you love me, you will obey what I command.
 

NIV John 14:21
   Whoever has my commands and obeys them, he is the one who loves me. He who loves me will be loved by my Father, and I too will love him and show myself to him."
 

NIV John 15:9-12
 9.  "As the Father has loved me, so have I loved you. Now remain in my love.
 10.  If you obey my commands, you will remain in my love, just as I have obeyed my Father's commands and remain in his love.
 11.  I have told you this so that my joy may be in you and that your joy may be complete.
 12.  My command is this: Love each other as I have loved you.
 

NIV John 15:17
   This is my command: Love each other.
 
 
 
NIV Matthew 28:19-20
 19.  Therefore go and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in  the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit,
 20.  and teaching them to obey everything I have commanded you. And surely I am with you always, to the very end of the age."
 
I think that Mt 28:20 is the one we are to follow now.

496 posted on 01/26/2006 7:47:57 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going....)
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