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To: newguy357

I read all translations, and I did not see thw word "idiot" being spoke by Jesus once.

And even if He did, it's interesting to note that you believe yourself His equal in that way.


406 posted on 01/25/2006 2:38:24 PM PST by Luis Gonzalez (Some people see the world as they would want it to be, effective people see the world as it is.)
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To: Luis Gonzalez
I read all translations, and I did not see thw word "idiot" being spoke by Jesus once.
 
 Matthew 23
 12.  For whoever exalts himself will be humbled, and whoever humbles himself will be exalted.
 13.  "Woe to you, teachers of the law and Pharisees, you hypocrites! You shut the kingdom of heaven in men's faces. You yourselves do not enter, nor will you let those enter who are trying to.
 15.  "Woe to you, teachers of the law and Pharisees, you hypocrites!  You travel over land and sea to win a single convert, and when he becomes one, you make him twice as much a son of hell as you are.
 16.  "Woe to you, blind guides! You say, `If anyone swears by the temple, it means nothing; but if anyone swears by the gold of the temple, he is bound by his oath.'
 17.  You blind fools! Which is greater: the gold, or the temple that makes the gold sacred?
 18.  You also say, `If anyone swears by the altar, it means nothing; but if anyone swears by the gift on it, he is bound by his oath.'
 19.  You blind men! Which is greater: the gift, or the altar that makes the gift sacred?
 20.  Therefore, he who swears by the altar swears by it and by everything on it.
 21.  And he who swears by the temple swears by it and by the one who dwells in it.
 22.  And he who swears by heaven swears by God's throne and by the one who sits on it.
 23.  "Woe to you, teachers of the law and Pharisees, you hypocrites!  You give a tenth of your spices--mint, dill and cummin. But you have neglected the more important matters of the law--justice, mercy and faithfulness. You should have practiced the latter, without neglecting the former.
 24.  You blind guides! You strain out a gnat but swallow a camel.
 25.  "Woe to you, teachers of the law and Pharisees, you hypocrites!  You clean the outside of the cup and dish, but inside they are full of greed and self-indulgence.
 26.  Blind Pharisee! First clean the inside of the cup and dish, and then the outside also will be clean.
 27.  "Woe to you, teachers of the law and Pharisees, you hypocrites! You are like whitewashed tombs, which look beautiful on the outside but on the inside are full of dead men's bones and everything unclean.
 28.  In the same way, on the outside you appear to people as righteous but on the inside you are full of hypocrisy and wickedness.
 29.  "Woe to you, teachers of the law and Pharisees, you hypocrites! You build tombs for the prophets and decorate the graves of the righteous.
 30.  And you say, `If we had lived in the days of our forefathers, we would not have taken part with them in shedding the blood of the prophets.'
 31.  So you testify against yourselves that you are the descendants of those who murdered the prophets.
 32.  Fill up, then, the measure of the sin of your forefathers!
 33.  "You snakes! You brood of vipers! How will you escape being condemned to hell?
 34.  Therefore I am sending you prophets and wise men and teachers. Some of them you will kill and crucify; others you will flog in your synagogues and pursue from town to town.
 35.  And so upon you will come all the righteous blood that has been shed on earth, from the blood of righteous Abel to the blood of Zechariah son of Berekiah, whom you murdered between the temple and the altar.
 36.  I tell you the truth, all this will come upon this generation.
 37.  "O Jerusalem, Jerusalem, you who kill the prophets and stone those sent to you, how often I have longed to gather your children together, as a hen gathers her chicks under her wings, but you were not willing.
 38.  Look, your house is left to you desolate.
 39.  For I tell you, you will not see me again until you say, `Blessed is he who comes in the name of the Lord.' "
Looks like you are absolutly right!!  No 'idiots' here: move along now....
 



And even if He did, it's interesting to note that you believe yourself His equal in that way.
 
 Matthew 23 10
 11.  "Whatever town or village you enter, search for some worthy person there and stay at his house until you leave.
 12.  As you enter the home, give it your greeting.
 13.  If the home is deserving, let your peace rest on it; if it is not, let your peace return to you.
 14.  If anyone will not welcome you or listen to your words, shake the dust off your feet when you leave that home or town.
 15.  I tell you the truth, it will be more bearable for Sodom and Gomorrah on the day of judgment than for that town.
 16.  I am sending you out like sheep among wolves. Therefore be as shrewd as snakes and as innocent as doves.
 17.  "Be on your guard against men; they will hand you over to the local councils and flog you in their synagogues.
 18.  On my account you will be brought before governors and kings as witnesses to them and to the Gentiles.
 19.  But when they arrest you, do not worry about what to say or how to say it. At that time you will be given what to say,
 20.  for it will not be you speaking, but the Spirit of your Father speaking through you.
 
Sigh.......

443 posted on 01/26/2006 9:38:08 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going....)
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To: Luis Gonzalez
I read all translations, and I did not see thw word "idiot" being spoke by Jesus once.

Stop being intentionally dull. If I call someone "massive" I am calling them large without using the word "large." Likewise, Jesus calling people dull is quite within the same vein as if he called them idiots.

And even if He did, it's interesting to note that you believe yourself His equal in that way.

Really? And where did I call myself the equal of Jesus? That's right, I didn't. But thanks for painting things contrary to reality. I merely pointed out precedence for Jesus insulting the intelligence of others.
516 posted on 01/27/2006 8:46:37 AM PST by newguy357
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