To: papertyger
You are actually arguing a failure to follow relatively recent naming conventions and categorizations constitutes an error. Bats != birds, no matter the "naming convention." A diety would know this, but primitive goat herders would not. Even more damning is the notion that locusts have four legs, or that pi = 3. I notice that whenever obvious Biblical errors come up, the apologists attempt to stretch reality to cover their beliefs. These "explanations" may placate the true believer, but to those with even an inkling of rationality they smack of sophistry.
If God ever had a hand in writing the Bible, His contribution has long since been papered over by generations of editors.
352 posted on
01/25/2006 8:56:23 AM PST by
Junior
(Identical fecal matter, alternate diurnal period)
To: Junior
If God ever had a hand in writing the Bible, His contribution has long since been papered over by generations of editors. So you're saying it's functionally impossible refute your position?
353 posted on
01/25/2006 9:05:35 AM PST by
papertyger
(We have done the impossible, and that makes us mighty.)
To: Junior
...or that pi = 3Oh come on..
http://www.direct.ca/trinity/pi.html
376 posted on
01/25/2006 12:30:39 PM PST by
Elsie
(Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going....)
To: Junior
YOUR STATEMENT-----or that pi = 3. I notice that whenever obvious Biblical errors come up, the apologists attempt to stretch reality to cover their beliefs.
My answer as I have been taught and checked.
I Kings 7 23-26
23. And he made a molten sea, ten cubits from the one brim to the other: it was round all about, and his height was five cubits: and the line of thirty cubit did compass it round about.
24. And under the brim of it round about there were knops compassing it, ten in a cubit, compassing the sea round about: and the knops were cast in two rows, when it was cast.
25. It stood upon twelve oxen, three looking toward the north, and three looking toward the west, and three looking toward the south, and three looking toward the east: and the sea was set above upon them, and all their hinder parts were inward.
26. And it was an hand breadth thick, and the brim thereof was wrought like the brim of a cup, with flowers of lilies: it contained two thousand baths.
The answer is simple. The diameter of 10 cubits is from the outer rim to outer rim the way anyone would measure a circular object. The circumference of 30 cubits, however was of the inner circle, after subtracting the thickness of the brass ( two handbreadths-one for each side) from which the bowl was made this would e the number needed to calculate the volume of water.
Check for yourself.
substitute the length of your cubit (elbow to longest fingertip) for the letter C in the following formula, and solve for H (handbreadth)
30C / 3.14159 + 2H = 10C
The width of your handbreadth will be the result. For example my cubit is 20 inches long. If I had built the brass bowl, the inner diameter would have a circumference of 600 inches (30 x 20 inches) and a diameter of 190.986 inches (600 inches / 3.14159). The difference between the two diameter is 9.014 inches (two of my handbreadths).
Rest assured. God makes not mistakes, mathematical or otherwise. The Scriptures do not contain error. By the way Solomon built this sea in 1000 B.C., long before the Greeks rediscovered Pi. WE may not understand some things at first glance, but the problem is with us, not with the Bible. Please be sure you are on the solid foundation of God's Word, saved by the blood of Christ.
A second way to solve this supposed contradiction has also been proposed Since the Bible says the sea had a lip like the brim of a cup, the ten cubit measurement may have included the lip while the circumference be around the bowl without the lip.
answer from Seminar Notebook, Creation Seminar Series, by Dr. Kent Hovind.
493 posted on
01/26/2006 5:59:36 PM PST by
Creationist
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