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Nobel laureate: Israel asking for bloodshed
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| January 22nd, 2006
| Ryan Jones
Posted on 01/22/2006 6:23:54 AM PST by Esther Ruth
Nobel laureate: Israel asking for bloodshed Top game theorist says headlong rush for 'peace' lessens the chances
By Ryan Jones
January 22nd, 2006
Rushing to surrender territory to Israel's enemies in an effort to increase security and foster peace is a bankrupt policy that will only lead to further bloodshed.
So said Nobel Laureate Professor Israel Aumann Saturday evening during a speech to participants in the Herzliya Conference on the folly of Israel's disengagement from the Gaza Strip and northern Samaria.
Aumann explained the problem is most Israelis, unlike their Islamic foes, have become convinced they are out of time.
The Arabs always said they have time, and that they can wait 10, 20 or 50 years until we disappear, he noted.
But Israelis, we're in a hurry. We're destroying beautiful, flourishing communities in the name of peace, because 'something has to be done.'
Instead, Aumann lectured, Israel should be patient and wait until the Arabs truly accept the fact of Israel's existence, regardless of how long it takes.
If we had patience, he said, We might really achieve peace. [But] anyone who wants peace now won't ever get a lasting peace.
The very act of running headlong after the longed-for peace is precisely that which distances it from us.
The man recognized as one of the world's leading game theorists also criticized his government's failure to demand any reciprocity from the Arabs, while under Western pressure Israel continues to dole out concessions.
The wretched Oslo Agreement, as he referred to it, includes a clause in which the Palestinian Authority agrees to stop the unbridled incitement in their schools against Israel and the Jews... This clause has never been carried out, and the incitement gets worse and worse each year.
The rape of impressionable young minds with such hate-filled propaganda is much more serious than any terrorist acts or Kassam rockets, the professor warned.
If children learn in school that the state of Israel should be wiped off the map, they'll become adults who believe the same thing. And not long from now, they'll be the leaders.
TOPICS: Israel; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: aumann; israel; israelaumann; laureates
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To: cbkaty
As far as I know, "this man" Mosche Dayan is the reason that the mosque on the Temple Mount is still standing, he refused to give his permission to blow it up.
To: Salem
Instead of giving up land, Israel should be expanding from the Wadi of Egypt to the Great Rriver, the Euphrates.
To: Esther Ruth
There is an interview today in the Washington Post with the new Foreign Minister of Israel. A woman who's father was a leader in the Irgun and who was in Likud purportedly as a Right Winger.
Her metamorphosis to a Leftist is a case study of where Israelis have gone wrong.
Israel has decided that because the Arabs refuse to concede anything vital, it is Israel that must be in the wrong and therefore Israel will negotiate with itself on behalf of their enemies.
And the negotiations are going very well. First Israel conceded a new (maybe two, one in the East and one in the West) "Palestinian" state.
Gaza was negotiated away for a good price- nothing. The border crossings were negotiated away for - nothing . Rockets raining down on Israel are met with token fire because otherwise the negotiations will derail and Israel will be unable to give away Hebron for- nothing. Israeli citizens are treated like garbage (well here there is a gain just in pure pleasure for the Israeli Left)..
On and on.
If the Arabs don't die from busting a gut laughing, they will win eventually.
Meanwhile I pray I meet a car salesman with the negotiating skills of the Israelis.
To: Esther Ruth
While I agree with Professor Israel Aumann's overview on Oslo as
The wretched Oslo Agreement, as well as the bulk of his comments, however
"Aumann explained the problem is most Israelis, unlike their Islamic foes, have become convinced they are out of time.".
In the case of the bearded Persian jackal and the bomb time is up. If Teheran's tyrants launch nuclear missiles at Israel all it takes is one reaching its preselected target for mass murder of thousands of innocent Israeli citizens.
"We will wipe Israel off the map!" Ahmadinejad
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01/22/2006 11:27:23 AM PST
by
M. Espinola
(Freedom is Never Free)
To: Esther Ruth
Aumann lectured, Israel should be patient and wait until the Arabs truly accept the fact of Israel's existence, regardless of how long it takes.And while they are waiting, the enemy acquires nuclear weapons and infiltrates Israel with even more homicidal terrorists, and raises new generations of millions of Jew-haters who are dedicated to finishing the job Hitler started, alliances erode as national interests drift apart and politicians succumb to raghead propaganda and bribery, and this guy gets a nobel prize for assuming that sooner or later the arabs will "accept the fact of Israel's existence?"
I'm in the wrong business. Obcviously there's easy money in "game theory."
To: hinckley buzzard
He means that Israel should wait before rushing in to suicidal concessions. Not to wait in fighting the enemy.
To: Alouette
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posted on
01/23/2006 6:38:19 AM PST
by
Convert from ECUSA
(Not a nickel, not a dime, stop sending my tax money to Hamastine!)
To: Alouette
The statue of David needs censoring?
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posted on
01/24/2006 6:22:09 PM PST
by
UnbelievingScumOnTheOtherSide
(Give Them Liberty Or Give Them Death! - IT'S ISLAM, STUPID! - Islam Delenda Est! - Rumble thee forth)
To: Esther Ruth
"The rape of impressionable young minds with such hate-filled propaganda..."
It ain't propaganda - it is a fundamental article of the Islamic "faith":
THE JOOOOOOZ IN ISLAM:
KORAN [9.30] And the
Jews say: Uzair [Ezra] is the son of Allah; and the
Christians say: The Messiah is the son of Allah; these are the words of their mouths; they imitate the saying of those who disbelieved before;
may Allah destroy them; how they are turned away!
KORAN [5.51] O you who believe! do not take the Jews and the Christians for friends; they are friends of each other; and whoever amongst you takes them for a friend, then surely he is one of them; surely Allah does not guide the unjust people.
HADITH Sahih Bukhari [4:52:176] Narrated 'Abdullah bin 'Umar:
Allah's Apostle said,
"You (i.e. Muslims) will fight with the Jews till some of them will hide behind stones. The stones will (betray them) saying, 'O 'Abdullah (i.e. slave of Allah)! There is a Jew hiding behind me; so kill him.' "
HADITH Sahih Bukhari [4:52:177] Narrated Abu Huraira:
Allah's Apostle said, "The Hour will not be established until you fight with the Jews, and the stone behind which a
Jew will be hiding will say. "O Muslim! There is a
Jew hiding behind me, so kill him."
HADITH Sahih Bukhari [4:56:791] Narrated 'Abdullah bin 'Umar:
I heard Allah's Apostle saying, "The
Jews will fight with you, and you will be given victory over them so that a stone will say, 'O Muslim! There is a
Jew behind me; kill him!' "
HADITH Sahih Muslim [41:6981] Ibn 'Umar reported Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) as saying:
You will fight against the
Jews and you will kill them until even a stone would say: Come here, Muslim, there is a
Jew (hiding himself behind me); kill him.
HADITH Sahih Muslim [41:6982] Ubaidullah has reported this hadith with this chain of transmitters (and the Words are):
"There is a
Jew behind me."
HADITH Sahih Muslim [41:6983] Abdullah b. 'Umar reported Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) as saying:
You and the
Jews would fight against one another until a stone would say: Muslim, here is a
Jew behind me; come and kill him.
HADITH Sahih Muslim [41:6984] Abdullah b. 'Umar reported that Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) said:
The
Jews will fight against you and you will gain victory over them until the stone would say: Muslim, here is a
Jew behind me; kill him.
HADITH Sahih Muslim [41:6985] Abu Huraira reported Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) as saying:
The last hour would not come unless the Muslims will fight against the
Jews and the Muslims would kill them until the
Jews would hide themselves behind a stone or a tree and a stone or a tree would say: Muslim, or the servant of Allah, there is a
Jew behind me; come and kill him; but the tree Gharqad would not say, for it is the tree of the
Jews.
Hadith Sahih Muslim, Book 19, Chapter 41: THE MURDER OF KA'B B. ASHRAF, (THE EVIL GENIUS) OF THE JEWS [for authoring songs and jokes about Muhammad]
HADITH Sahih Muslim [19:4436] It has been narrated on the authority of Jabir that
the Messenger of Allah (may peace be upon him) said:
Who will kill Ka'b b. Ashraf? He has maligned Allah, the Exalted, and His Messenger. Muhammad b. Maslama said: Messenger of Allah, do you wish that I should kill him? He said: Yes. He said: Permit me to talk (to him in the way I deem fit). He said: Talk (as you like). So, Muhammad b. Maslama came to Ka'b and talked to him, referred to the old friendship between them and said: This man (i. e. the Holy Prophet) has made up his mind to collect charity (from us) and this has put us to a great hardship. When be heard this, Ka'b said: By God, you will be put to more trouble by him. Muhammad b. Maslama said: No doubt, now we have become his followers and we do not like to forsake him until we see what turn his affairs will take. I want that you should give me a loan. He said: What will you mortgage? He said: What do you want? He said: Pledge me your women. He said: You are the most handsome of the Arabs; should we pledge our women to you? He said: Pledge me your children. He said: The son of one of us may abuse us saying that he was pledged for two wasqs of dates, but we can pledge you (cur) weapons. He said: All right. Then Muhammad b. Maslama promised that he would come to him with Harith, Abu 'Abs b. Jabr and Abbad b. Bishr. So they came and called upon him at night. He came down to them. Sufyan says that all the narrators except 'Amr have stated that his wife said: I hear a voice which sounds like the voice of murder. He said: It is only Muhammad b. Maslama and his foster-brother, Abu Na'ila. When a gentleman is called at night even it to be pierced with a spear, he should respond to the call. Muhammad said to his companions: As he comes down, I will extend my hands towards his head and when I hold him fast, you should do your job. So when he came down and he was holding his cloak under his arm, they said to him: We sense from you a very fine smell. He said: Yes, I have with me a mistress who is the most scented of the women of Arabia. He said: Allow me to smell (the scent on your head). He said: Yes, you may smell. So he caught it and smelt. Then he said: Allow me to do so (once again). He then held his head fast and said to his companions: Do your job.
And they killed him.
© Religion of Peace
KORAN: http://www.hti.umich.edu/k/koran/HADITH: http://www.usc.edu/dept/MSA/reference/searchhadith.html
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posted on
01/24/2006 6:36:45 PM PST
by
UnbelievingScumOnTheOtherSide
(Give Them Liberty Or Give Them Death! - IT'S ISLAM, STUPID! - Islam Delenda Est! - Rumble thee forth)
To: Esther Ruth
He is ever so obviously right so what is going on with our administration's perspective. Where are they coming from? How can they be so right on the war on terror and so wrong on this?
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posted on
01/25/2006 8:15:38 PM PST
by
Bellflower
(A Brand New Day Is Coming!)
To: Bellflower
They've come up with the best ruse ever, move all to safety (Lk 21:21)??? or the other previously named explanations....
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posted on
01/26/2006 5:16:58 AM PST
by
Esther Ruth
(I have loved thee with an EVERLASTING LOVE, Jeremiah 31:3)
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