It's Dogged as Does It [Darwin in the Galápagos]

Scientific American ^ | February 2006 issue | Michael Shermer

[PatrickHenry]

The author of this article also gave us this one: 15 Answers to Creationist Nonsense.

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[shuckmaster]

I wonder what kind of beaks the finches would evolve if they ate bacon and eggs with gravy biscuits for breakfast.

[RoadTest]

But he repented on his death bed.

[js1138]

What if he didn't?

[CarolinaGuitarman]

"But he repented on his death bed."

No, he really didn't. That's a creationist Myth started by a woman who called herself Lady Hope. Her claims about Darwin's *repentance* are at odds with Darwin's own children's accounts (his daughter was a devout Christian who would have been THRILLED if Darwin had converted). It makes absolutely no sense why he would tell this stranger his he converted and not tell his wife who worried every day about his soul. There is absolutely no evidence he ever changed his mind. The evidence is that he died content in the knowledge his theory was well supported.

[mlc9852]

You sound glad he never repented. Why?

[mlc9852]

And this was written to refuse Rennie's nonsense.

http://www.apologeticspress.org/articles/2575

[PatrickHenry]

The Lady Hope Story: A Widespread Falsehood. Sorry, Darwin made no deathbed recantation. (But Galileo actually did recant, so the earth doesn't move and the solar system doesn't exist.)

[CarolinaGuitarman]

"You sound glad he never repented. Why?"

He had nothing to repent for.

[mlc9852]

http://www.apologeticspress.org/articles/2575

in 1988, physicist George Greenstein wrote:

As we survey all the evidence, the thought insistently arises that some supernatural agency—or, rather, Agency—must be involved. Is it possible that suddenly, without intending to, we have stumbled upon scientific proof of the existence of a Supreme Being? Was it God who stepped in and so providentially crafted the cosmos for our benefit? (1988, p. 27).

In 1992, Arno Penzias (who fourteen years earlier had shared the 1978 Nobel Prize in physics with Robert W. Wilson for their discovery of the so-called “background radiation” left over from the Big Bang) declared:

Astronomy leads us to a unique event, a universe which was created out of nothing, one with the very delicate balance needed to provide exactly the conditions required to permit life, and one which has an underlying (one might say “supernatural”) plan [p. 83, parenthetical comment in orig.].

In his 1994 book, The Physics of Immortality, Frank Tipler (who co-authored with John D. Barrow the massive 1986 volume, The Anthropic Cosmological Principle) wrote:

When I began my career as a cosmologist some twenty years ago, I was a convinced atheist. I never in my wildest dreams imagined that one day I would be writing a book purporting to show that the central claims of Judeo-Christian theology are in fact true, that these claims are straightforward deductions of the laws of physics as we now understand them. I have been forced into these conclusions by the inexorable logic of my own special branch of physics (Preface).

[crail]

If you consider the creationist beliefs of a small number of individual physicists to be evidence for creationism, then you must consider the much larger number of physicists who do not share the creationist believe to be strong evidence against creationism... correct?

[DaGman]

"I wonder what kind of beaks the finches would evolve if they ate bacon and eggs with gravy biscuits for breakfast."

I would imagine something resembling a fork and knife.

[mlc9852]

I just prefer to consider all possibilities.

[PatrickHenry]

Regarding the article by the same author that I linked back in post #1, we had a gigantic thread (over 2000 posts) on it a few years ago:
15 Answers to Creationist Nonsense [THE FINAL DEBUNKING]. Classic crevo, with medved, g3k, and lots of other now-banned creationists.

[Doctor Stochastic]

...the romance of fieldwork quickly fades.

Which explains why so few become scientists.

[Doctor Stochastic]

Darwin spent some time at Islas Malvinas too.

[Ken H]

I wonder what kind of beaks the finches would evolve if they ate bacon and eggs with gravy biscuits for breakfast.

If they developed a taste for finch eggs, then...

[highball]

But he repented on his death bed.

I'm glad we got this lie out of the way early.

Now when the next person posts it, we'll know that it's not from ignorance.