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Academic underachievers (Boys, discipline, dropouts, grades, medications, etc.)
The Washington Times ^ | January 22, 2006 | Joyce Howard Price

Posted on 01/21/2006 11:25:45 PM PST by neverdem

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This was on the frontpage of the Washington Times. I think you can thank the feminazis and the AFT.
1 posted on 01/21/2006 11:25:46 PM PST by neverdem
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To: neverdem
From what I have run into in the school system, boys are evil and girls are everything. The deck really is stacked against boys.
2 posted on 01/21/2006 11:28:34 PM PST by FOG724 (Governor Spendanator)
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To: neverdem

It's become non-PC for a man to act like a man. And they wonder what's wrong.


3 posted on 01/21/2006 11:34:07 PM PST by JamesP81
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To: neverdem
No matter how much the libs proclaim men and women are equal, they will always be wrong.

Boils down to different gifts that we should appreciate.

4 posted on 01/21/2006 11:34:08 PM PST by lizma
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To: JamesP81
"It's become non-PC for a man to act like a man. And they wonder what's wrong."

Is beating up nerds and geeks considered manly? The real problem lies in the neglect of education of boys. After all, nerds and geeks(generally un-manly) are reviled, but jocks(generally airheads and football players) are the real boys. I'm sure the high school kids see it that way.

It is opposite for girls. Slutty and airhead girls sure are not looked up as good girls, where as nerdy girls are good and pious.
5 posted on 01/22/2006 12:07:44 AM PST by sagar
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To: neverdem
http://www.ajc.com/opinion/content/shared-blogs/ajc/luckovich/index.html

Like Mike Luckavich. Take a minute to vote against this Bush bashing cartoonist!! (If you really want to make an impression, vote every hour)>
6 posted on 01/22/2006 12:15:57 AM PST by msnimje (What’s the deal with all the self-appointed, holier than thou, correcto maniacs on Free Republic??)
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To: neverdem
Boys certainly won't do any more poorly than girls in math and science if:

1. Real math/science is taught rather than touchie-feelie mush.

2. By teachers who are interested and capable in those courses, not by coaches, band teachers, assistant principals etc just needing to pick up a course or two.

3. Students are grouped by ability into three or four groups.

Difficult to get and maintain correct placements? You bet.

Expensive? Not much, if any.

All students can be challenged at appropriate levels, not necessarily happily, and most will appreciate the success if it is clearly earned.

Choose your America.
7 posted on 01/22/2006 12:54:50 AM PST by caveat emptor
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To: kristinn; BillF; tgslTakoma

I've noticed this is a problem.


8 posted on 01/22/2006 12:59:55 AM PST by staytrue (MOONBAT CONSERVATIVES are those who would rather lose to a liberal than support a moderate)
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To: neverdem; rmlew; Clemenza; PARodrig; RaceBannon; Do not dub me shapka broham
If the country raises "girlymen" it's gonna get "girlymen".



9 posted on 01/22/2006 1:05:46 AM PST by Cacique (quos Deus vult perdere, prius dementat ( Islamia Delenda Est ))
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To: neverdem

Boys also account for 80 percent of Ritalin prescriptions. Coincidence?


10 posted on 01/22/2006 1:14:41 AM PST by thoughtomator
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"Boys also account for 80 percent of Ritalin prescriptions. Coincidence?"

I have been upset about this for some time now as I have observed what parents of boys go through..My opinion is that the Ritalin prescription and other medications are attempts to force boys into a feminine mold. If this had been the fad when I grew up, all my male cousins would have been "restrained" with medications. Then, it was understood that boys had lots of energy and a shallow attention span..They were given physical chores around the farm and their Fathers had disciplinary control of them. With the exception of a very few, all grew up to be responsible and very successful adults..Now, I will express myself on a male problem which has been with society forever but seems not to have a solution. I almost cried as I read about the efforts of Laura Bush here because I came to my computer this a.m. to research "Bullying" because it is a problem in my Grandson's school and during the last week a couple of boys (12 years old) have begun to bully verbally bully him..He is a big, good-looking kids and he does well in school. He is also a happy person with an intact family and he plays basketball and is quite accomplished on the guitar for his age..His school is supposed to have a big policy against bullying and we hope it will not go further than verbal..Also, I understand that girls are now bullying boys by asking them to buy expensive gifts, and if the boy will not or cannot, they and their friends will tell him how awful and selfish he is and will start rumors..Terrible stuff going on in the 12 year old world. The bent towards terrorism begins early..It seems that while boys are not getting the academic attention they need, they are also not getting the discipline they need when they show aggressive tendencies. I read online that 60% of boys who bully in school end up in legal trouble by the time they are adults. Many grow up to be abusers of their families..This problem needs to be addressed in tandem with the learning issues.


11 posted on 01/22/2006 3:37:56 AM PST by jazzlite (esat)
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To: FOG724

Almost every year my first grade boys are better at the girls at reading and math. It is especially true this year, even with a LOT more boys in the class. I do think later that some things happen. At least here, sometimes (with some people), it seems to be priorities. Is football practice and video games more important to school? It's a hard choice for some to make.


12 posted on 01/22/2006 4:00:14 AM PST by moog
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To: lizma

I agree completely with your statement.


13 posted on 01/22/2006 4:00:43 AM PST by moog
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To: sagar

Nerds and geeks often aren't considered very manly as adults either. It's our perception. Yet, to act like a "real" man often gets demeaned--as in being honest, hardworking, spending time with kids, etc. IT's TIME WE TOOK TIME TO APPRECIATE GOOD FATHERS TOO. Those are the real men, not just someone who "acts" manly.


14 posted on 01/22/2006 4:03:04 AM PST by moog
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To: caveat emptor

Good mothers and fathers make a big difference too, probably the biggest difference.


15 posted on 01/22/2006 4:04:14 AM PST by moog
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To: jazzlite

The problem needs to be addressed by all of us, that's true.


16 posted on 01/22/2006 4:06:02 AM PST by moog
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To: thoughtomator

No, they are by nature more active and have more energy THOUGH I am noticing more girls getting more active with more energy as well. HOWEVER, around here at least (not sure of other places), almost all medication is parent-initiated, and not necessarily based on the way they act at school, but often at home or in other social settings. I have one boy who could be categorized as "hyperactive" but he does get his work done and has made improvement over the year so far. He does drive me crazy, but he also has a kind heart so I can't fault him too much. His grandma raising him has him on some herbal stuff. Another student is on Ritalin. Not sure of all the reasons--part of it because he's active, but also part because he's listless too. It's totally on his parents' part and I figure they know better than I do (around here teachers can't make medical recommendations and I'm glad for that). He's doing pretty well in class.

I myself would love to see more male teachers out there, but I think that we will see less in at least the near future. The biggest factor though to me is having a strong and involved father. I am lucky that many of my students do, because they make all the difference (yes some have to work extra hours--it's the quality time that counts).


17 posted on 01/22/2006 4:14:03 AM PST by moog
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To: neverdem

I am a public high school teacher. I can attest first hand that boys are in a lot of trouble, dropping out, not attending college, headed for prison. White males are the most forgetten group. Many are headed nowhere.


18 posted on 01/22/2006 4:14:24 AM PST by kjo
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To: neverdem

Indeed.

My son's third grade teacher told me she disliked little boys.

I told her quit teaching...

Boys are not girls. Never will be and this campaign against them is out of hand.


19 posted on 01/22/2006 4:15:48 AM PST by OpusatFR
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To: kjo
I am a public high school teacher. I can attest first hand that boys are in a lot of trouble, dropping out, not attending college, headed for prison. White males are the most forgetten group. Many are headed nowhere. It's due to a VARIETY of factors, the most important being having a traditional family I believe (though kids will turn out differently in some cases--like President Reagan and his son Ron). At least in my case, generally, the best-behaved, most well-rounded kids come from families with BOTH parents who are involved with their kids. I know a lot of teachers who could say that too. I LOVE great dads who support their kids. We elementary teachers love stay-at-home moms too.
20 posted on 01/22/2006 4:20:19 AM PST by moog
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