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To: raccoonradio
"The guy loses by 3 million votes...."

Somewhat irrelevant in light of the Electoral College. I'm am certainly not a Kerry fan but, as I recall, in the end it came down to Ohio. The election wasn't just about Kerry. As in every election, you have the 35% dedicated lefties and almost the entire MSM.

49 posted on 01/21/2006 9:53:24 PM PST by LZ_Bayonet
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To: LZ_Bayonet
it came down to Ohio.

Had they pushed that, then we would have to examine the vote count in PA, WI, ME, OR, MN, MI and NH.

57 posted on 01/21/2006 10:21:50 PM PST by Just A Nobody (I - LOVE - my attitude problem! WBB lives on. Beware the Enemedia.)
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To: LZ_Bayonet

You're correct. Kerry came very close electorally. He won 251 electoral votes and 59 million popular votes, the second highest total of any Presidential candidate in history and more than 8 million votes than Gore received in 2000. The biggest surprise to me is how close he came against an incumbent, wartime President during good economic times.


73 posted on 01/22/2006 12:50:20 AM PST by kabar
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To: LZ_Bayonet
Somewhat irrelevant in light of the Electoral College. I'm am certainly not a Kerry fan but, as I recall, in the end it came down to Ohio.

It's interesting that you parrot the MSM with the assertion that it all came down to Ohio. Do you realize that Bush lost WI by about 10,000 votes, much closer than OH, and if Bush had won WI, OH was a non factor? It's true that Kerry would have won the election if he got OH, however, there were many more states much closer than OH that had just as much impact.

MoodyBlu

123 posted on 01/22/2006 9:39:14 AM PST by MoodyBlu
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To: LZ_Bayonet; MoodyBlu
I'm am certainly not a Kerry fan but, as I recall, in the end it came down to Ohio.

Don't fall for that. Bush won Ohio by 119,000 votes. Kerry won Minnesota, Wisconsin, and New Hampshire by a combined total of 119,000 votes. OH = 20 electoral votes, MN + WI + NH = 24 electoral votes.

And the MSM has raised this issue, uh, how many times?

In addition, Kerry "won" PA by 145,000 votes and MI by 165,000 (similar totals as Bush win in OH) and the MSM has raised this issue, uh, how many times?

Don't forget Hawaii, which was only a 37,000 vote margin for Kerry.

Ohio was the only close Bush win that the MSM/Kerry campaign could team up with and use as an excuse to accuse GWB and Republicans of something...anything. Please understand that.

LIBERALS CANNOT ACCEPT DEFEAT OR REALITY

142 posted on 01/22/2006 11:57:35 AM PST by NewLand (Posting against liberalism since the 20th century!)
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To: LZ_Bayonet
You must keep in mind that this was no ordinary effort by the Democrats to win.

Never in the history of the left has so much money been raised and spent or more GOTV shoe leather worn out on the mean streets of urban America in an attempt to win the presidency.

Moreover, Bush was a relatively weak candidate by virtue of the war in Iraq. Using the MSM as a megaphone, the world's cultural elites joined voices in an attempt to bring down Bush.

And Bush STILL won by 3,000,000 votes.

149 posted on 01/22/2006 3:58:29 PM PST by JCEccles
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