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Russia against equating of Communism to Nazism - Kosachyov
Interfax ^ | Jan 20 2006

Posted on 01/21/2006 12:13:49 PM PST by Tailgunner Joe

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To: spanalot

What part of "Russia was the agent of 100 million deaths" do you not understand? ==

Prove it. I'd like to hear you line of reasoning.


21 posted on 01/21/2006 2:26:22 PM PST by RusIvan ("THINK!" the motto of IBM)
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To: RusIvan

RusssiaIvan

Read it and Weep
Welcome to the 21st century
http://72.14.207.104/search?q=cache:4xZ8-C0045YJ:www.victimsofcommunism.org/+100+million+communism&hl=en&ie=UTF-8


22 posted on 01/21/2006 2:34:51 PM PST by spanalot
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To: spanalot

RusssiaIvan

Read it and Weep
Welcome to the 21st century
http://72.14.207.104/search?q=cache:4xZ8-C0045YJ:www.victimsofcommunism.org/+100+million+communism&hl=en&ie=UTF-8==

I red it. Then I did the IE search on this page you referenced. I didn't find nether word "russian" nor "kremlin" on it. It is the solid fact:)).

So my question to you still stands. How you prove your statement: "Russia was the agent of 100 million deaths"?


23 posted on 01/21/2006 2:45:15 PM PST by RusIvan ("THINK!" the motto of IBM)
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To: Tailgunner Joe

Nazi, PRC, and the USSR. What the oommon denominator between these three? Socialism.

Socialism, the greatest evil of the 20th century, and, considering the millions killed, arguably the greatest evil of all time.

As if I needed any other reason for despising the left and the dimocrats.


24 posted on 01/21/2006 2:48:32 PM PST by sasportas
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To: spanalot

And please now tell it by your OWN words. Don't hide behind hype of refs.
If you convinced of something then you can at least explain your believes right?
I hope you are not just one of russophobic propagandists. These public just don't like solid facts.


25 posted on 01/21/2006 2:49:55 PM PST by RusIvan ("THINK!" the motto of IBM)
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To: RusIvan

"How you prove your statement: "Russia was the agent of 100 million deaths"?"

Simple, Russia was the center of power from communism and communism killed 100 million in the last century.


26 posted on 01/21/2006 3:01:14 PM PST by spanalot
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To: Tailgunner Joe

What a pile of rubbish. If communism wasnt totalitarian we wouldnt have seen so many defections,human right abuses,hostile land grabs, and the berlin wall keeping people in. We are seeing similar defections with china now.


27 posted on 01/21/2006 3:08:34 PM PST by MARKUSPRIME
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To: spanalot

Simple, Russia was the center of power from communism and communism killed 100 million in the last century.==

How you prove that "Russia was center of power of communism"? Known fact is that the communism was invented in 19 century in Germany by Karl Marx and Fredrikh Engels. Do you know that?


28 posted on 01/21/2006 3:19:49 PM PST by RusIvan ("THINK!" the motto of IBM)
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To: RusIvan

"Simple, Russia was the center of power from communism and communism killed 100 million in the last century.== "

""How you prove that "Russia was center of power of communism"? Known fact is that the communism was invented in 19 century in Germany by Karl Marx and Fredrikh Engels. Do you know that?""

You are a Russian propagandist if you believe that faulty line of logic. I don't think it was Germans that funded Mao from 1924 to 1949 - it was the Kremlin which is as Russian as Russian gets.


29 posted on 01/21/2006 3:23:58 PM PST by spanalot
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To: RusIvan

Listen, I know you are russian and you probably love your homeland. However, its time to look at the facts. Have you ever heard of Stalins death lists that he personally signed off on?
How about post WW2 cold war confrontational behavior with the west and gross human rights abuses on your own people. Why do you think so many russians fled the soviet union and settled in places in the US like brighton beach, New Jersey and formed "little odessa". Why is every country that was under the communist yoke now mostly anti-russian and pro western? Its because that communist system killed millions of its own people while building a huge military police state with the communist party having absolute power.Its not propaganda friend and its the reason that the west is worried about Putins slide from democracy back to authoritarianism.


30 posted on 01/21/2006 3:27:17 PM PST by MARKUSPRIME
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To: spanalot

lets not forget all the death the usually "forced" spread of communism caused and the battles to try to get rid of it. Vietnam, Koreas, Afganistan, eastern europe, all the countries south of russia, China, Cuba, south america.
The number goes way beyond 100 million.

I can think of no other ideology that is responsible for more death and human suffering in shear numbers than communism.


31 posted on 01/21/2006 4:33:16 PM PST by Proud_USA_Republican (We're going to take things away from you on behalf of the common good. - Hillary Clinton)
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To: Proud_USA_Republican

"I can think of no other ideology that is responsible for more death and human suffering in shear numbers than communism. "

Agreed


32 posted on 01/21/2006 4:35:01 PM PST by spanalot
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To: spanalot

And who lit the fire in Russia?

Germans, Ukranians, Prussians, Tatars, and Turks.

They conquered Russia and then China.


33 posted on 01/21/2006 5:06:33 PM PST by x5452
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To: Tailgunner Joe

Change the red to orange and you've got Yushchenko's new campaign banners.


34 posted on 01/21/2006 5:07:02 PM PST by x5452
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To: Tailgunner Joe


Speaking of red stars...
35 posted on 01/21/2006 5:07:45 PM PST by x5452
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To: darkocean
That still doesn't put any of those guys in the league with Ruckleshaus and Rachel Carson and the 90 million people they killed by banning DDT.

LOL!!

36 posted on 01/21/2006 5:12:58 PM PST by Irish_Thatcherite (~~~A vote for Bertie Ahern is a vote for Gerry Adams!~~~)
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To: spanalot

Try Islam.


37 posted on 01/21/2006 5:15:09 PM PST by x5452
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To: familyop

Agreed! That's why we must stop Socialist George Soros from electing Nationalist Socialist candidates for government throughout east europe including Ukraine, Georgia, Kazakstan, Latvia, Estonia, and others!


38 posted on 01/21/2006 5:16:30 PM PST by x5452
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To: Proud_USA_Republican

Ever hear of Islam?


39 posted on 01/21/2006 5:17:23 PM PST by x5452
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To: Proud_USA_Republican
World War One gave the Young Turk government the cover and the excuse to carry out their plan. The plan was simple and its goal was clear. On April 24th 1915, commemorated worldwide by Armenians as Genocide Memorial Day, hundreds of Armenian leaders were murdered in Istanbul after being summoned and gathered. The now leaderless Armenian people were to follow. Across the Ottoman Empire (with the exception of Constantinople, presumably due to a large foreign presence), the same events transpired from village to village, from province to province.

The remarkable thing about the following events is the virtually complete cooperation of the Armenians. For a number of reasons they did not know what was planned for them and went along with "their" government's plan to "relocate them for their own good." First, the Armenians were asked to turn in hunting weapons for the war effort. Communities were often given quotas and would have to buy additional weapons from Turks to meet their quota. Later, the government would claim these weapons were proof that Armenians were about to rebel. The able bodied men were then "drafted" to help in the wartime effort. These men were either immediately killed or were worked to death. Now the villages and towns, with only women, children, and elderly left were systematically emptied. The remaining residents would be told to gather for a temporary relocation and to only bring what they could carry. The Armenians again obediently followed instructions and were "escorted" by Turkish Gendarmes in death marches.

The death marches led across Anatolia, and the purpose was clear. The Armenians were raped, starved, dehydrated, murdered, and kidnapped along the way. The Turkish Gendarmes either led these atrocities or turned a blind eye. Their eventual destination for resettlement was just as telling in revealing the Turkish governments goal: the Syrian Desert, Der Zor. Those who miraculously survived the march would arrive to this bleak desert only to be killed upon arrival or to somehow survive until a way to escape the empire was found. Usually those that survived and escaped received assistance from those who have come to be known as "good Turks," from foreign missionaries who recorded much of these events and from Arabs.


A starved mother with her two starved children

More photos of this genocide
40 posted on 01/21/2006 5:20:18 PM PST by x5452
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