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President or VP in 2008? An Interview with Senator George Allen
opinioneditorials.com ^ | January 8, 2006 | Judson Cox

Posted on 01/21/2006 12:11:30 PM PST by redgirlinabluestate

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To: oceanview
its the single issue pro-lifers you have to worry about.

We have to worry about them every election. And, like I said above, they'll never be happy.

141 posted on 01/21/2006 2:08:11 PM PST by Corin Stormhands (My memory's not as sharp as it used to be. Also, my memory's not as sharp as it used to be.)
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To: Corin Stormhands
I was interested to see that Allen says that NC Senator Richard Burr is w/him on drilling in ANWR. Burr, the answer to fervent conservative prayers, replaced the Silky Pony, who is still interested in making another run for the presidency...ugh, puke, and shades of Hell.

I simply cannot face the possibility of a rerun of McCainiac's silly Luke Sky Walker stuff. No matter what, I cannot and will not vote for him. He is too unstable imo.

I WILL vote for Allen if/when he gets the nomination.

142 posted on 01/21/2006 2:08:36 PM PST by Carolinamom (New member of Sam's Club)
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To: Gipper08; Howlin; oceanview; HitmanNY
I beg to differ going back to Senator Allen's days in the House.

That was seventeen years ago. Or are you one of those voters who likes to beat the snot out of a candidate and when he changes to your position, you keep beating away?

Find something current. Were you even born 17 years ago?

143 posted on 01/21/2006 2:14:08 PM PST by Corin Stormhands (My memory's not as sharp as it used to be. Also, my memory's not as sharp as it used to be.)
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To: Corin Stormhands

One issue voters stink.


144 posted on 01/21/2006 2:16:24 PM PST by HitmanLV (Listen to my demos for Savage Nation contest: http://www.geocities.com/mr_vinnie_vegas/index.html)
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To: Corin Stormhands

Was Allen a grown man then or not? It was one year before he was Governor.Should we discount everything he did as Governor because it was so long ago? It was a long time ago,BUT IT WAS the last time we saw a glimpse in depth on how he feels about Life issues and the role of Government funding of abortions.


145 posted on 01/21/2006 2:19:10 PM PST by Gipper08 (Mike Pence in 2008)
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To: Sybeck1
Its not a surprise.

George Allen (Sr.) was personal friends with Reagan going all the way back to the california days.

George Allen (jr) and his brothers (including Bruce) saw Reagan so much they called him uncle.

146 posted on 01/21/2006 2:21:50 PM PST by Sonny M ("oderint dum metuant")
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To: Howlin
"The Dems being so scared of Steele!

Thanks. The concept of the eloquent black conservative leaves them absolutely speechless in fear (and it takes a lot to shut those people up).

147 posted on 01/21/2006 2:22:20 PM PST by carl in alaska (Kerry did not invent treason, but he invented the use of treason as a democrat political strategy.)
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To: JohnnyZ
Do a shot every time Allen uses a sports metaphor!!!

We'd all be dead from Alcohol poisoning after his first speech.

148 posted on 01/21/2006 2:23:30 PM PST by Sonny M ("oderint dum metuant")
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To: Gipper08; Howlin; oceanview; HitmanNY
BUT IT WAS the last time we saw a glimpse in depth on how he feels about Life issues and the role of Government funding of abortions.

Not true.

As Governor he issued an Executive Order forbidding state employee health insurance coverage of abortions.

As Governor he fought for four years and successfully championed Virginia's parental notification law. And he worked for it until the General Assembly got it right.

In the Senate he has consistently supported the ban on partial birth abortion.

Try again.

149 posted on 01/21/2006 2:25:11 PM PST by Corin Stormhands (My memory's not as sharp as it used to be. Also, my memory's not as sharp as it used to be.)
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To: oceanview
in a presidential campaign - he is going to be pressed on that position - not his legislative votes, his position.

I think it should be noted that back in August Senator Allen took a position regarding stem cell research.

He was clear.

If it involves destruction of human embroyos, he opposes it.

He will only support stem cell research if it does not destroy human embroyos.

This position does contradict previous statements.

But is relativly consistant with his voting record.

150 posted on 01/21/2006 2:27:55 PM PST by Sonny M ("oderint dum metuant")
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To: Gipper08
Was Allen a grown man then or not?

Are you saying you haven't changed your position on one thing in 17 years?

Honestly?

151 posted on 01/21/2006 2:28:08 PM PST by Howlin
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To: Corin Stormhands

I have concerns when we federally fund abortions.It concerns me morally and fiscally.I would think we would agree on that.My concern is federally funded abortions.


152 posted on 01/21/2006 2:28:59 PM PST by Gipper08 (Mike Pence in 2008)
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To: Gipper08

No, you're only concern is trying to drum up anything that will keep our guy from blowing your guy completely out of the water.

But nice try.

Really.


153 posted on 01/21/2006 2:30:10 PM PST by Corin Stormhands (My memory's not as sharp as it used to be. Also, my memory's not as sharp as it used to be.)
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To: Corin Stormhands
I think at the personal level, Allen believes that life begins when brain waves can be detected. At least that's what he's said in years past. However, I also know him well enough to know that if science proved otherwise, to believe that he'd modify his position.

It was his position.

In august of 2005, he seemed to change his position.

He opposed destruction of human embroyos for stem cell research and only supports stem cell research if human embroyos are not used.

Here is a quote.

BLITZER: Let me ask Senator Allen: On the embryonic stem-cell research, Senator Frist, the Senate majority leader, broke with the president, wants federal funding expanded on embryonic stem-cell research.

Where do you stand?

ALLEN: I am for stem-cell research, particularly stem-cell research that can get through three filters that I have: number one, the advancement of science; number two, proper federal funding; and third, trying to avoid the ethical controversy. In California, in Stanford University and elsewhere, they are getting stem cells that have the properties, the flexibility of embryonic stem cells without having to destroy an embryo. It seems to me that would be the appropriate funding from the federal government.

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0508/07/le.01.html

154 posted on 01/21/2006 2:34:05 PM PST by Sonny M ("oderint dum metuant")
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To: Corin Stormhands

anytime ANYONE is to the left of George HW Bush on any issue I AM DEEPLY concerned.


155 posted on 01/21/2006 2:34:19 PM PST by Gipper08 (Mike Pence in 2008)
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To: Gipper08
Planned Parenthood rates Allen as voting 0% with their issues.

NARAL gives George Allen a score of 0%.

The National Right to Life Committee gives him 100% for 2005.

156 posted on 01/21/2006 2:46:20 PM PST by Corin Stormhands (My memory's not as sharp as it used to be. Also, my memory's not as sharp as it used to be.)
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To: All

I knew nothing of Allen before I read this thread. Wow. A Ronald Reagan man to boot. You guys are crazy if you let a small thing like his personality (some say he is dull, others no) stop you for being for this man.

Its the issues, man, the issues. What a man stands for is what counts in my book. I now know who I am for!

If he makes it to the general election, he would hands down carry the south and the west. He would do at least as good as W in carrying the red states. This man is electable. With Steele as his running mate it would blow the dims away.

No way am I for McPain...or Condi. Condi's credentials as a conservative cannot even come close to Allen's.


157 posted on 01/21/2006 3:21:53 PM PST by sasportas
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To: sasportas
I hadn't heard this. Wonder if there is any truth in it? Certainly would give Allen a lot of publicity. Picture This: Actor Ben Affleck, Senator From Va.???

If you liked him as Bennifer . . . you'll love him as Benator! That's the hot new idea being tossed around by Virginia Democrats, who are desperately searching for a big name to challenge the reelection bid of rising GOP star Sen. George Allen, now that outgoing Gov. Mark Warner has ducked out. http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/09/26/AR2005092601991.html

158 posted on 01/21/2006 3:34:58 PM PST by redgirlinabluestate
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To: harpu
Resulting in; 8 yrs of W, 8 yrs of Rice/Allen, and then 8 yrs of Allen/????.

The only job Rice is interested in is in Paul Tagleabu's job. She aint running. She knows that it's not worth going through the media smearing!

159 posted on 01/21/2006 4:21:03 PM PST by Bommer (Ted Kennedy - Fat, drunk and stupid is no way to go through life!)
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To: Howlin
Ronald Reagan, who doubled the government?

I hate to keep repeating this but for you I will do it. :-)

Ronald Reagan had a Democrat controlled Congress who was spend crazy. As part of Reagan agreeing to a tax increase in the 1986 "Tax Simplification" bill the Democrats agreed to cut spending $2 for every $1 in tax cuts. Typically they ignored their promise and went on a spending spree. When Reagan would veto or threaten to veto they would shut the government down and blame it on him. The media gladly went along.

In addition, Reagan had to rebuild the military that Carter had decimated. Enough of this "Reagan Deficits" BS.

Remember the Gramm/Rudman bill that was to control spending? What happened to that? Hint: Check out the Democrats.

There, wasn't I sweet about it. :-)

160 posted on 01/21/2006 5:09:36 PM PST by Mind-numbed Robot (Not all that needs to be done needs to be done by the government.)
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