Posted on 01/20/2006 10:28:11 AM PST by TFFKAMM
n 1543, Nicolaus Copernicus published a new theory stating the earth revolves around the sun. This is known as the Copernican theory. This theory was considered a serious challenge to the Ptolemaic theory and the Roman Catholic Church. Copernicus died before he could prove his theory.
Maybe I have it backwards. Mormons might consider themselves Christians but Catholics and most Protestant churches do not consider them Christians.
At the time the Ptolemaic theory was adopted, there was another guy who had it right. Ptolemy was politically connected, so he won the argument. That was the start of being PC or Politically Correct.
The Politically Correct version was not changed until Galileo. That's 1500 years or so.
Doesn't hold much hope that the present PC crowd is going away soon.
See the posts on being politically correct.
Just because you are Politically Correct does not mean you are right.
You can talk until you are blue in your face no way will any exchange a Schizoid version for real thing!
FM
Some people take it as more than a fairy tale and that is dangerous.
I actually talked with such a person this morning, so the issue of this being new age humanism is indeed a fact for some people LL.
He doesn't as far as I know. I only was responding to another poster concerning some historical allegations. It was totally unrelated.
If Joseph was influence by Masons it would be equal to say that he was influenced by Methodists, Baptists, Presbeterians, etc as well.
That being said, it just goes to show the Mormon belief that many religions teach some correct doctrines and principles. If they are correct, they are correct, and no use arguing about them.
Likewise that fits right in with the Mormon view of the Apostasy, which says there was only one Jesus, he had 12 Apostles and one religion/faith.
After the Apostles died or otherwise were killed there came a massive splintering resulting in hundreds of churches that all proclaim the same Jesus but have different teachings.
Joseph was called as a prophet by the Lord to assist in restoring the original order of things.
With that being said, since almost all had some root in the original Christianity there is a lot that we Mormons agree with whole heartedly. So, to say Joseph was influenced by any or all of the groups isn't that far fetched.
A work of fiction yes, but the author's intentions are to give legitimacy to the Gnostics and the Gnostic Bible which are real works of heresey. The Gnostics believe that Christ was a rather lewd person who, lived through his crucifiction, absconded to France with Mary Magdeline and fathered two chlidren. Christ also comes across as a sort of proto-feminist when reading the works of the Gnostics and Dan Brown. The book is nothing more than the wild fantasies of a liberal Gnostic who supports paganism, eroticism, and the feminist cults. Read the book, then come back and tell us if you see it any differently. The book is Gnostic, feminist propagana period.
We are not Protestant, but definately Christian.
My question would be who are you or any other church to define "Christianity"? Where did one obtain authority to declare what is or isn't?
The old "legend has it ... " again.
My Wife and I were married in the temple, and the wedding ceremony in the Temple bares no resemblance to any Masonic ceremony --- Unless they get married in the Masonic Lodge.
I have never been to a Masonic Wedding though.
Still rambling on without a clue. At least you admit to it with the "maybe". You have to ask yourself the meaning of Christian. Without looking it up it is most likely one who follows that teachinigs of Jesus Christ. That would indeed make us Christians. The only thing in contention is which interpertations of his teaching e.g., beliefs, doctrine, are correct. All christian religions have some variations in their doctrine hence the many denominstions of Christianity. To single out Mormons is to say that you KNOW which doctrine are correct. In that case you would have to exlcude everyone from being Christians except yourself and your denomination. You have the logic of a Democrat. Doode
The Godmakers is hardly a source of any credibility. Thats about like reading the National Enquirer of religion.
you may consider yourselfs to be followers of anything, but the truth is, your Mormon doctrince is held higher than the Word of God in your mindset...otherwise known as the bible..... it seems no discussion can precede unless it reflects the Mormon view.....
I know there has been a big push to make everyone think that Mormons are true Christians, as if its a selling point to the great unwashed......
but I think its only a convinience to do so..
admittedly, many Mormon teachings or practices are Christian based.....but when you come right down to it, Christ is not the center of their religion.......
it does seem that the Mormon church has "evolved" as the need arose.....
Thats an utter lie. EVERYTHING in LDS doctrines and teachings revolves around Christ.
PM here as well...
Which Christ is that? The one that was born in Jerusalem or Bethlehem? The one that came to America? I think you follow a differant Christ.
There is only one Christ.
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