Police, feds seize suspected illegal aliens

The Galveston County Daily News ^ | January 20, 2006 | Mason Lerner and T.J. Aulds

[wmfights]

"Our youth??? THE MOST SPOILED AND TRASHY generation in memory? Good grief you spoiled my Friday bringing THAT up!"
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SORRY!

[Tammy8]

I have lived on the border for years and in my opinion the first wave of the illegal immigration flood I noticed was brought about by President Carter's policies. His administration reorganiized and made new guidelines for both Customs and Immigration. The system was working before he changed it, and hasn't worked since. Every President after Carter has either made the problem worse or ignored it.

It is wrong for some to blame President Bush alone for the problem that has been festering all these years- but you are correct that he should be front and center to fix it.

I had not heard the Kennedy connection, I would be interested in more information about that if anyone knows. It wouldn't surprise me, but there is plenty of blame to go around.

[blackie]

Protect our borders and coastlines from all foreign invaders!

Support our Minutemen Patriots!

Be Ever Vigilant ~ Bump!

[GregoTX]

I was one of the Officers there for that operation, I can feel your fustration.

[Pessimist]

"...the vast majority of these illegals are doing jobs Americans won't do."

At what price? Isn't that really the issue in those regards?

Beyond that though, its not really a matter of being "anti-immigrant", its a matter of being anti ILLEGAL immigrant. And in that respect the issue is really one of law enforcement.

[taxed2death]

“It’s a matter of setting a priority because we simply do not have enough beds to take them all into custody,”

Didn't the worthless sock-puppet Chertoff recvently make the remark that "any illegals caught would be deported"?


LOL
what a joke this "Homeland Security" is...

[wmfights]

"At what price? Isn't that really the issue in those regards?"
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I don't believe for a second that they are driving down wages. Fast food rest. are a case in point. They are paying a lot more than minimum wage to find workers and in my part of the country those workers are not native born.

I agree that the illegal aspect of this problem is something that needs to be fixed. A wall on the border, incarceration for criminals, are good points; but, how do we provide for our labor shortage?

If we seal the border what will happen to Mexico? If your saying I don't care, ask yourself who is our 2nd largest trading partner? Also, where do we buy oil when they decide to sell elsewhere? Economically we are linked.

What happens to the GOP when they lose their increasing share of Hispanic votes? Why is it that the RATS are so quiet on this issue?

[taxed2death]

"No I mean doing jobs Americans won't do."

BS!

Go to any State technical / trade high school and ask those who are trying to get jobs in their chosen trades WHO is taking these entry level blue collar jobs.

Answer:
Illegals.

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" Has an attitude of some jobs are beneath me pervaded our culture?"

Speak for yourself. Apparently this is the case for you.

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"If these illegals weren't doing these jobs who would?"

Try this one on for size amigo....
If your business model requires you to be a tax cheat and break employment laws...you have a crappy business. Perhaps you should do something else.


Illegals are hired to pick produce / wash dishes because they are willing to work for below "market" wages. If everyone were "on the books" (legal) in diners / restaurants / produce fields across the country it would ease the burden on American tax payers.

You probably believe that by granting amnesty to these illegal workers already in our country will "solve" this problem. Next season, these scumbag tax cheat employers will just go out and hire more illegals, further cutting the throats of legit business owners.
Meanwhile.....
those illegals who've magically been made "legal" through Shamnesty can begin to collect a few years down the road.

Do you think they'll vote Republican?


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[taxed2death]

"I don't believe for a second that they are driving down wages."

You suffer from cranial / rectal inversion syndrome.

House framing in the NE used to pay $16 to $18 an hour as recently as 4 years ago.

Now illegals do it for $10.00 an hour. If you are a legit business owner, you can not compete against these scumbag tax cheat employers.

If you are own / operate a legally run business, you are "penalized" for not hiring illegals. Many legit businesses in my state have been driven out of business for this very reason.

Again, the simpleton would think that by granting illegals amnesty would solve these problems. Well, the simpleton is too stupid to figure out that these scumbag tax cheat employers are dishonest and would rather go out and find a new crew of (cheap) laborers rather than to put the newly made legal employers on the books.

[wmfights]

"Well, the simpleton is too stupid to figure out that these scumbag tax cheat employers are dishonest and would rather go out and find a new crew of (cheap) laborers rather than to put the newly made legal employers on the books."
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Spoken like a real democrat.

It's always the evil employer.

Next thing in this litany will be "the govt. should guarantee our jobs and wages."

[Reaganwuzthebest]

They probably got a call from El Hefe Presidente Jorge...

Yup, being that close to the border it's doubtful ICE would just let them go arbitrarily, they most likely got a call from some open borders higher up.

[Reaganwuzthebest]

It's always the evil employer.

Any business that violates the law fits that description. We have rules against hiring illegals for a reason, it's to keep the playing field level.

[Jhohanna]

ACK! K-Town! That's where my hubby lived and grew up, though his daddy was stationed at Rammstein. Something about better quarters in Kaiserslauteren (I think I just butchered the spelling on that one...). I'm just an AF brat... I got left behind when the family went to Rammstein, though. :( Ended up having to live with my bio mother. HEH. I woulda been better off in Germany! :) Nice to meet you!

And you are *so* right. *sigh*

[devane617]

RIGHT ON!!! Your comments should be read to our dumb-ass president three times a day.

[Old Flat Toad]

"Not enough beds"? Doesn't this contradict last weeks story about having 1000 available beds for illegals?

[Vaduz]

And both senate and house are doing WHAT about it?.

[RSmithOpt]

Good to hear that (about you and being a mil bra and all)....guess what? My girlfriend was in K-Town almost exactly 10 years later to the date with her family. She saw a picture of the aprtment buildings (base housing) and asked which one we lived in. I said I couldn't remember, but she lived in the one on the left on the 4th floor.......small world.

Here's another for ya.... I was adopted from German parents. I want to go back for the food and the beer.....Not sure as to what it is, but I love the taste of a lot of German dishes and have gotten pretty good at making them. Also, been in NC all my life but just from an average family. My Dad was 1/4 Cherokee. Retired in 1968 - Command Sargent Major (E-9) 82nd Airborne Div. with almost 25 years service. He retired before he wanted. He said 3 wars would be pushing it and he'd seen enough bad sh$t!! Took about 7 years to realize the family was not his battalion. LOL!

Have a safe, fun and blessed weekend. It's always good to meet another....

[wmfights]

"Any business that violates the law fits that description. We have rules against hiring illegals for a reason, it's to keep the playing field level."
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I would agree hiring illegals is a big problem. Any idea how hard it is for employers to screen applicants?

Let's keep that playing field level create trade embargo's, and protect our industry's.

The point I'm trying to make is building a wall and keeping the world out is not going to solve the problem and this single minded approach is only going to lead to the GOP becoming a "whites only" minority party.

We have a huge immigration problem, but do we want to keep them out or ASSIMILATE them?

[Flavius Josephus]

LULAC Cries Intimidation. Quanel X says "A ca' can gi' birth ta kittins in a oven that don't make it uh biscuit."

[Pessimist]

Lets take your points one at a time:

"I don't believe for a second that they are driving down wages."

You may not believe it, but its simple supply and demand. More workers chasing fewer jobs = lower wages. Think landscapers and contructions trades are not affected in areas with a lot of illegals?

"but, how do we provide for our labor shortage?"

Easy. We "decide" as a country how many we will let in per year and of what type (skills, etc...). We already do that now, and then we promptly also let in anyone else who walks across the border. Right now its pointless to even attempt to decide how many we should let in until we can actually control that number. Again, I'm not saying I'm against immigration - just illegal immigration.

"If we seal the border what will happen to Mexico? If your saying I don't care, ask yourself who is our 2nd largest trading partner?"

Its not that I "don't care", just not that awful much. Mexico is Mexico's problem. If their approach to solving their economic woes is to export illegals, there in pretty bad shape anyway. As for trade, we import a lot from Mexico too, so a trade war is unlikely to benefit them.

"Also, where do we buy oil when they decide to sell elsewhere? Economically we are linked."

Oil is a global commodity. It matters not at who claims they will or will not sell to whom in that it does not change the total supply or demand picture at all, and therefore it doesn't change the price either.

"What happens to the GOP when they lose their increasing share of Hispanic votes? Why is it that the RATS are so quiet on this issue?"

First of all, I'd just as soon not have us play politics with our border. Secondly, there's really no reason that encouraging illegals has garnered the GOP any Mexican votes. Most polls I've seen claim legal Mexicans are actually against illegal immigration. And the last time I checked, illegals still can't vote, although at the rate things are going that may be a matter of time... :(

BTW... Thanks for your reasonable discussion of the issue. I apreciate it.