Posted on 01/20/2006 6:47:55 AM PST by dukeman
The justice minister of the European Union, Franco Frattini, announced this week at the EU parliament in Strasburg that member states which do not eliminate all forms of discrimination against homosexuals, including the refusal to approve “marriage” and unions between same-sex couples, would be subject to sanctions and eventual expulsion from the EU.
According to a report by the Archdioceses of Madrid’s news service Analisis Digital, the commissioner’s statements came as the governments of Latvia, Lithuania, Estonia, and Poland ruled against legalizing homosexual “marriage.”
“Homophobia is a violation of human rights and we are watching member states on this issue and reporting on cases in which our efforts have been unsuccessful,” Fratti said. In this way “the Commission and the European Parliament seek to make any refusal to grant homosexual couples the same rights as a married couple a crime of ‘homophobia’,” the report warned.
Frattini-- who was elected EU commissioner after the EU parliament rejected the nomination of the Catholic intellectual Rocco Buttiglione because of his opposition to homosexual unions-- has proposed “designating 2007 as the year of Equal Opportunity. The objectives would be to inform the public about their rights, promote diversity and, as a value of the Union, make this goal a priority.”
Some EU parliamentarians demanded specific sanctions against states that do not follow the anti-discrimination law and refuse to call homosexual unions “marriage,” for example. Michael Cashman, President of the European Parliament’s Intergroup on Gay and Lesbian Rights, proposed expulsion from of the EU of those countries that “do not adhere to anti-discrimination legislation.”
“If we do nothing we are accomplices in the crimes of violence that we see occurring in many member states,” said Cashman, who is also vice president of the organization Gay & Lesbian Humanists. The organization’s website says it is at war with “Catholic-inspired homophobia.”
Nevertheless, reports Analisis Digital, these proposals have been contested by Polish EU representative Jan Tadeusz Masiel, who called the adoption of children by homosexual couples “repulsive” and “shocking.” Likewise, her fellow Polish EU representative, Barbara Kurdycka, said the EU Parliament had no business telling people what they should think about homosexuality.
Quote me accurately...
Why didn't Adolph make any babies? He liked little boys. Why else would all those “superior” genes of der Fuhrer be allowed to go to waste?
Roehm had something on der Fuhrer. Can't be “outed” as a homosexual and a pedophile if you are telling everybody you are building a master race.
Hitler and Goering were both after little boys. A lot of the National Socialist leadership were sadomasochists, homosexuals and pedophiles. It was practical to eliminate those who could not be trusted with such secrets.
A lot of this sadomasochist component can be seen in German officer's complaints that they were not allowed to sexually abuse Jewish women, a policy that was rigidly enforced by the Gestapo and met with severe penalties if discovered.
When some people use the term “Gaystapo” to describe militant homosexual activist groups, they are closer to the truth than they realize!
The Japanese, despite elements of racial superiority within their Shintoism and ancestral worship, had no such restrictions on the activities of their soldiers, despite the fact they also had sadomasochistic tendencies inherent in their culture of Imperial Japan.
The truth is that no one knows why Adolf didn't father kids and for all you know he was sterile. Moreover, the truth is that there is ample evidence that Adolf at least carried on an affair with his niece, as you've already been informed. But you ignore the truth in favor of your ridiculous conjecture, on the basis of ... absolutely nothing. Nothing but your absurd, fevered smoke and mirrors.
Röhm had something on der Fuhrer. Can't be “outed” as a homosexual and a pedophile if you are telling everybody you are building a master race.
This is a prime example of what so annoys me about you. Maybe Röhm did have something on der Fuhrer. Who the hell knows? But what so irks me is that you present this as if it's anything more than your lurid personal fantasies. There is no actual evidence whatsoever that Röhm had anything on Hitler, much less that he had evidence that Hitler was a homosexual and a pedophile, especially since we know for a fact that no such evidence exists. Merely an idle house-of-cards built of associations, ignoring all evidence to the contrary.
Hitler and Goering were both after little boys.
I have seen no evidence of this at all, and I've actually researched the topic and written on it. If you have the evidence, then by all means post it. But again, this is characteristic of you. You post that Goering was after little boys and who the hell knows where you came up with it. For all I know you pulled it out your behind. And someone is supposed to pretend to take you seriously?
A lot of the National Socialist leadership were sadomasochists, homosexuals and pedophiles. It was practical to eliminate those who could not be trusted with such secrets.
The part you forgot is where you left off the evidence.
A lot of this sadomasochist component can be seen in German officer's complaints that they were not allowed to sexually abuse Jewish women, a policy that was rigidly enforced by the Gestapo and met with severe penalties if discovered.
We've already covered this. It is ridiculous nonsense to the nth degree.
When some people use the term “Gaystapo” to describe militant homosexual activist groups, they are closer to the truth than they realize!
Umm.. No. And the heterosexual orgies of the Gestapo were legion. Now, if they called the homo-activists "storm troopers" though they might actually have a leg to stand on.
The Japanese, despite elements of racial superiority within their Shintoism and ancestral worship, had no such restrictions on the activities of their soldiers, despite the fact they also had sadomasochistic tendencies inherent in their culture of Imperial Japan.
Yup, that's basically true. But the Japanese were not Nazis. And, it would seem that the "restrictions" you're alluding to were to rape of women, even though your wording might imply to someone that you're referring to sadomasochist homosexuality.
A minor correction: I shouldn't have said that there is "ample evidence" of the affair between Hitler and his niece, but that there is considerably more evidence of that than of his alleged pedophilia, of which there is no evidence at all.
He was a pervert into all kinds of unnatural, sleazy things... and his Reichmarshall Goering was a homosexual pedophile.
Go on defending those things, it is interesting.
The whole National Socialist culture was one of sadomasochism. In fact, the sadomasochist culture today has a lot of the same National Socialist symbolism connected to it, especially in homosexual circles.
Like the National Socialists, such liberals hate Israel and the Jews, as well as cozy up to the Islamics.
(Don't forget Spanalot, and anti-semite extrordinaire Tailgetter Joe)
Well, that certainly seems true enough.
and his Reichmarshall Goering was a homosexual pedophile.
I would have no problem with this notion if you backed it up with even the slightest of evidence, but you don't. You just go on repeating it as if this does anything more than make you look like a jerk.
The Pink Swastika left no stone unturned in coming up with even the most tenuous rumor of homosexuality on the part of every Nazi leader, and even though state that there is no evidence of homosexuality on the part of Goering (for that matter, he was actually notorious as a 'ladies man' in his youth). That alone is good enough for me, by comparison to your statements, which haven't the slightest credibility of their own accord.
Go on defending those things, it is interesting.
You seem to have me confused for someone who cares about the opinions of those who would be impressed by your type of smug innuendo. I don't. Not even in the slightest. The type of people whose opinion matters to me would see this for what it is: a sad spectacle who cannot defend or support his positions and so resorts to pathetic emotionalism.
The whole National Socialist culture was one of sadomasochism.
Who ever said otherwise? I certainly didn't. Of course both the Marquis de Sade and Leopold von Sacher-Masoch were heterosexuals, for what that's worth.
In fact, the sadomasochist culture today has a lot of the same National Socialist symbolism connected to it, especially in homosexual circles.
Of course it does. Nazism lends itself to that type of symbolism, for patently self-evident reasons. So what?
I dunno about the "especially in homosexual circles" part. You may very well know a heck of a lot more about those than I do, but I dunno of any basis for that statement. Sadomasochism is hardly limited to homosexuals, to say the least, and its symbolism tends to be totally independent of sexuality.
Like the National Socialists, such liberals hate Israel and the Jews, as well as cozy up to the Islamics.
It's not clear to which liberals you're referring to, but it's true that a subset of liberals hate Israel and the Jews, though that subset has nothing particularly homosexual about it, which is the topic at hand. The Nazis detested the Islamics nearly as much as they detested anyone, so the last part of your statement is misleading. The Nazi hatred of the Jews did not even slightly involve favor for the Arabs. They would've exterminated both, given half a chance.
Your thinking, although couched in interesting verbiage, doesn't address the facts actually presented in, among other books, "The Pink Swastika" and (you never mention this one), "Hidden Hitler". Is William Shirer's "The Rise and Fall of the Third Reich" written by a feverish kunckledragging homophobe too?
Just for the record, I never mentioned anything about sex being forbidden between Jewish women and non-Jewish men. I know nothing about it.
I will get to posting the excerpts from P.S. and a quotes from favorable reviews. Just very busy at present.
I've addressed "The Pink Swastika" and I haven't read "Hidden Hitler" and I'm unsure what part of "The Rise and Fall of the Third Reich" you might want me to address. I certainly don't dispute that Röhm was homosexual and that his immediate circle in the Sturmabteilung was also. Hitler had Röhm and his circle killed in 1934, so that should tell you something, but you rationalize it away as a 'practical' move or whatever.
My plan is to ignore your "Pink Swastika" thread since (a) there's gonna be nothing there I haven't seen before; and (b) if I do read it, I won't be able to suppress the impulse to correct all the nonsense. I think it's unfortunate that you'll be peddling lies and distortions of history, and that of an era that is compelling for what it is, but there's not much I can do about it, so whatever.
Just don't ping me to that thread since there's nothing for you to achieve by that and nothing would come of it but another hostile debate.
Yeah. The decadent EU tells Eastern European countries that in order to enjoy the alleged economic benefits of EU membership, they must destroy their faith and their culture by acceeding to the BOGUS demands of the filthy and disgusting "gays" and their fascist enablers!!!!
The decadent ones not only want to apply their strictures to the above majority Roman Catholic or Lutheran countures, but also to Orthodox Romania, Bulgaria, Macedonia, and above all brave and noble Serbia, which continues to be demonized for having dared to stand up to the antichrist NWO oppression that the EU is part and parcel of!!!! For all of these Orthodox countries, as well as majority Roman Catholic Croatia, Slovenia, and Slovakia, are candidates for EU membership.
Orthodox Christian Europe, and perhaps other Eastern European countries, would do better to form their own regional economic and political alliance, in concert with Russia. And America would do well fo form a partnership with such an alliance.
As I've already stated, I found it to be little more than baseless conjecture and innuendo; selective presentation of facts and quotes taken out of context; and an elaborate smoke-and-mirrors game of dissembling and distraction.
It is a contrived rhetorical house of cards peddled to those who are too ignorant to evaluate the material critically, and who are hardly motivated to dig any further, already being predisposed to accept anything consistent with their notions. And, from what reviews I've seen of it, this perfectly describes the reviewers as well.
So, obviously, I scrapped my chapter and had to do a total rewrite.
I'll be posting for the benefit of people who have open minds, don't worry. I won't ping you.
It takes no trouble at all to sling words like "lies", "nonsense", "fevered", "conspiracy", and the like. What's not so easy is to take, for instance, passage from the books I mentioned and disprove them.
This truly made me laugh out loud!
What's not so easy is to take, for instance, passage from the books I mentioned and disprove them.
Give me the passage you want me to address.
It is the mark of a fanatic, and of a mind so bolted down shut that it is utterly impenetrable. You evaluate nothing with regard to this topic based on standards of veracity and validity, but rather on the basis of whether it furthers your preconception (anything like that is true in your estimation, no matter how baseless) or whether it contradictions your preconception (anything like that is automatically "homosexual propaganda" no matter what the merits).
And that's why I haven't bothered to tackle many of your statements more directly. Why on earth should I bother with such a futile endeavor?
Note to self: Typos suck. Review before posting!
They'd be much better off forming their own economic association, the EEU, or Eastern European Union.
Not me. Just take a look at what's happened here in the U.S. in less than two decades. We've gone from Hollywood's "We Are the World" and being introduced to AIDS to every movie and television show inserting a gay "star".
We've changed our laws for homos and now have Hate Crime legislation (thought police for gays). Our public schools dedicate untold hours of intensive "counseling" to the uninformed (read normal heterosexual kids),encouraging and legitimizing the homosexual unhealthy lifestyles. Instead of learning the three R's in school, they're being taught how to put condoms on bananas & little ones are taught that "Heather Has Two Mommies".
The Homo agenda is very much alive and well in the U.S. and since they are less than 2% of our population, we're nuts to continue putting up with it. I'm hoping the conservative revolution is just getting started. It's high time we conservatives took back our country and squashed the deviant minority in this country who are absolutely fixated on homosexuality and abnormal behavior.
The question is, is the Polish will strong enough to get off the EU cash addiction. Free cash is a strong narcotic.
Eeeeh, wrong. Goering liked little boys and girls, Hitler was a monosexual who showed no desires for either sex. He kept some girlfriends but no one ever saw him and even Eva Brown showing sexual signs towards each other. Hitler was above all a mama's boy who decorated his mother's grave in flower and Nazi regalia...though by all accounts she would have been shocked and turned off by this.
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