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To: cake_crumb
what the moonbats think is irrelevant.

I agree; however, if I see a Freeper headed in that direction I will certainly call them on it. If one really believes that OBL is dead and has been for some time, surely they aren't so full of themselves to think they've got it figured out and the US intel does not. If one believes that the evidence clearly shows that OBL is dead, then one must assume that the US intel has also put the pieces together and come to same conclusion. Therefore, when a tape is aired that is purportedly of OBL, it would be a lie for the USG to say "it's authentic and recently made" if they know that to be impossible. And there is where you head down the conspiracy bunny trail. If the US knows that OBL is dead but is "keeping him alive" by "authenticiting" tapes they know to be frauds, then the question becomes one of "why" and that's where you will the find the moonbats already are.

I would bet the house that this is not the case. First of all, with all of the leaks in the intelligence community, if we really, really thought he was dead but acted like "gee, look he's alive" when tapes are releases, somebody would talk. Secondly, even if Bush could keep it secret (which he couldn't), he wouldn't. There is no strategic reason to do so, except possibly politically. Do I think Bush would perpetuate a lie that OBL is dead to win polls and elections? No. Of course, the moonbats do, which is another reason I don't subscribe to the theory.

85 posted on 01/19/2006 2:12:21 PM PST by GLDNGUN
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To: GLDNGUN
I'm not headed in the direction of the moonbats. FYI, I lean toward the theory Binny really is dead but his remains haven't been identified.

I have NEVER intimated that the US knows Binny is dead and is perpetuating a fraud. In the one post where I mentioned it, it should have been obvious I thought I was summing up the point you were making to me in order to refute it. I SAID that when a tape is made and authenticated as Binny, THERE IS STILL NO WAY TO KNOW THE AGE OF THE VOICE RECORDED SEGMENTS ON THE TAPE, THAT BINNY'S TOAST AND AL JAZEERA IS MANUFACTURING THEM IN THEIR STUDIOS BEFORE SELLING THEM AS CONVENIENT "BREAKING" NREWS WHENEVER THE TERRORISTS NEED A MORAL BOOST...OR INSTRUCTIONS

To repeat: I DID NOT accuse the administration of any wrongdoing: I accused al Jazeera of working for al Qaeda and manufacturing these tapes. Don't put words into my keyboard.

FYI, I just heard this tape IS STILL under analysis.

86 posted on 01/19/2006 2:22:12 PM PST by cake_crumb (Leftist Credo: One Wing to Rule them All and to the Darkside Bind them)
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