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Feds Seek Google Records in Porn Probe
AP Via Yahoo ^ | 2006-01-19

Posted on 01/19/2006 10:36:33 AM PST by flashbunny

The Bush administration, seeking to revive an online pornography law struck down by the U.S. Supreme Court, has subpoenaed Google Inc. for details on what its users have been looking for through its popular search engine.

Google has refused to comply with the subpoena, issued last year, for a broad range of material from its databases, including a request for 1 million random Web addresses and records of all Google searches from any one-week period, lawyers for the U.S. Justice Department said in papers filed Wednesday in federal court in San Jose.

Privacy advocates have been increasingly scrutinizing Google's practices as the company expands its offerings to include e-mail, driving directions, photo-sharing, instant messaging and Web journals.

Although Google pledges to protect personal information, the company's privacy policy says it complies with legal and government requests. Google also has no stated guidelines on how long it keeps data, leading critics to warn that retention is potentially forever given cheap storage costs.

The government contends it needs the data to determine how often pornography shows up in online searches as part of an effort to revive an Internet child protection law that was struck down two years ago by the U.S. Supreme Court on free-speech grounds.

The 1998 Child Online Protection Act would have required adults to use access codes or other ways of registering before they could see objectionable material online, and it would have punished violators with fines up to $50,000 or jail time. The high court ruled that technology such as filtering software may better protect children.

The matter is now before a federal court in Pennsylvania, and the government wants the Google data to help argue that the law is more effective than software in protecting children from porn.

The Mountain View-based company told The San Jose Mercury News that it opposes releasing the information because it would violate the privacy rights of its users and would reveal company trade secrets.

Nicole Wong, an associate general counsel for Google, said the company will fight the government's efforts "vigorously."

"Google is not a party to this lawsuit, and the demand for the information is overreaching," Wong said.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: americantaliban; bigbrother; google; govwatch; libertarians; nannystate; porn; snooping; statist
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Comment #501 Removed by Moderator

To: Mighty Eighth
Obviously you scored the lowest in Constitutional Law, huh?

Actually, his version of "constitutional" law probably got high marks for its concurrence with the socialist views prevalent at today's "top 20" schools.

502 posted on 01/20/2006 8:11:03 AM PST by steve-b (A desire not to butt into other people's business is eighty percent of all human wisdom)
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To: Mighty Eighth

Moderation isn't the slippery slope to anything.


503 posted on 01/20/2006 8:12:18 AM PST by dinoparty (In the beginning was the Word)
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Comment #504 Removed by Moderator

To: steve-b

Well all, its been fun easily fending off the members of your isolated little cabal one-by-one, but now its time to make some money like a good libertarian.


505 posted on 01/20/2006 8:14:27 AM PST by dinoparty (In the beginning was the Word)
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To: dinoparty
Nope, I passed on the first try, and graduated with honors from a top 20 law school.

Then I'm confused.

506 posted on 01/20/2006 8:19:01 AM PST by antiRepublicrat
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To: steve-b
Was that the same Fox story referenced on the latest thread?

I don't know, but I just saw it on CNN and they got it completely right.

507 posted on 01/20/2006 8:20:26 AM PST by antiRepublicrat
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To: dinoparty
Won't happen. Its just a fantasy on your part.

Do you honestly believe that? Do you realize that FReepers and other Conservatives are not giving President Bush and Congress a free pass on little to no border security, on "guest" work programs for illegal aliens/criminals, on things that go against the Constitution. In the past, President Bush and Congress could get away with non-Conservative actions, but I don't think that's the case any longer.

This thread is just one example of this.

If the DOJ was doing this (asking for this data) under Clinton's watch, you and the others defending these actions would just be freaking out.
508 posted on 01/20/2006 8:22:58 AM PST by af_vet_rr
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To: jetson
Google search engine will lose 80% of it's business.

Why? Would you rather use Google, who doesn't turn over your searches to the government, or would you rather use Yahoo, MSN, or AOL, who do turn your searches over to the government?
509 posted on 01/20/2006 8:25:51 AM PST by af_vet_rr
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To: HiTech RedNeck; Mojave
you have still to document American Online

Yahoo, MSN and AOL folded

510 posted on 01/20/2006 8:26:25 AM PST by antiRepublicrat
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To: steve-b
Was that the same Fox story referenced on the latest thread? Either they're incompetent, or the leftists are right about them being cynical shills for Bush & Company.

I have never thought FOX News was much better than any other national television news. It's just MSM-right as opposed to MSM-left. The worst thing about both flavors is what they completely leave out.

511 posted on 01/20/2006 8:27:26 AM PST by TigersEye (All Americans should be armed and dangerous!)
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To: flashbunny
I believe that pornography is wrong. Child pornography is evil and should result in long jail sentences.

However, I don't want the government obtaining records from Google or any other search engine.

512 posted on 01/20/2006 8:31:07 AM PST by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: steve-b

Bwa ha haaaa. That sure smacks a fat nail on the head!


513 posted on 01/20/2006 8:33:38 AM PST by TigersEye (All Americans should be armed and dangerous!)
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To: trisham
And yet another poster weighs in without reading the article.

There is nothing, not one thing, not a single solitary reference or intention to reference KIDDIE PORN in this article or in what the gooberment is doing here!

514 posted on 01/20/2006 8:36:18 AM PST by TigersEye (All Americans should be armed and dangerous!)
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To: TigersEye
Fortunately, I had already read this:

In court papers that the San Jose Mercury News reported on after seeing them Wednesday, the Bush administration depicts the information as vital in its effort to restore online child protection laws that have been struck down by the U.S. Supreme Court. Yahoo Inc., which runs the Internet's second-most used search engine behind Google, confirmed Thursday that it had complied with a similar government subpoena.

So I was aware of the connection prior to this thread. However, I do appreciate your good manners.

http://articles.news.aol.com/business/article.adp?id=20060119120609990032&cid=

515 posted on 01/20/2006 8:46:08 AM PST by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: trisham

Connection to what? You do realize that what you cut-and-pasted has nothing to do with child porn don't you?


516 posted on 01/20/2006 8:48:47 AM PST by TigersEye (All Americans should be armed and dangerous!)
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To: flashbunny

Glad I haven’t Googled “porn” in a few years.


517 posted on 01/20/2006 8:50:14 AM PST by R. Scott (Humanity i love you because when you're hard up you pawn your Intelligence to buy a drink.)
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To: atomicpossum
2) I'm not sure I can see how knowing a number is pertinent to the process involved in crafting the legislation.

If the Feds want to know if there is a lot of porn on the net, all they have to do is Google any keyword that might lead them to it – and check the number of sites that come up.
518 posted on 01/20/2006 8:52:15 AM PST by R. Scott (Humanity i love you because when you're hard up you pawn your Intelligence to buy a drink.)
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To: TigersEye

Oy. Have a nice day.


519 posted on 01/20/2006 8:52:41 AM PST by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: dinoparty
Also, explain how you can claim that internet porn is not interstate commerce.

Pay sites could be interstate commerce, but the free sites are not – with no money exchanged for goods or services how can it be “commerce”?
520 posted on 01/20/2006 8:57:04 AM PST by R. Scott (Humanity i love you because when you're hard up you pawn your Intelligence to buy a drink.)
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