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Feds Seek Google Records in Porn Probe
AP Via Yahoo ^ | 2006-01-19

Posted on 01/19/2006 10:36:33 AM PST by flashbunny

The Bush administration, seeking to revive an online pornography law struck down by the U.S. Supreme Court, has subpoenaed Google Inc. for details on what its users have been looking for through its popular search engine.

Google has refused to comply with the subpoena, issued last year, for a broad range of material from its databases, including a request for 1 million random Web addresses and records of all Google searches from any one-week period, lawyers for the U.S. Justice Department said in papers filed Wednesday in federal court in San Jose.

Privacy advocates have been increasingly scrutinizing Google's practices as the company expands its offerings to include e-mail, driving directions, photo-sharing, instant messaging and Web journals.

Although Google pledges to protect personal information, the company's privacy policy says it complies with legal and government requests. Google also has no stated guidelines on how long it keeps data, leading critics to warn that retention is potentially forever given cheap storage costs.

The government contends it needs the data to determine how often pornography shows up in online searches as part of an effort to revive an Internet child protection law that was struck down two years ago by the U.S. Supreme Court on free-speech grounds.

The 1998 Child Online Protection Act would have required adults to use access codes or other ways of registering before they could see objectionable material online, and it would have punished violators with fines up to $50,000 or jail time. The high court ruled that technology such as filtering software may better protect children.

The matter is now before a federal court in Pennsylvania, and the government wants the Google data to help argue that the law is more effective than software in protecting children from porn.

The Mountain View-based company told The San Jose Mercury News that it opposes releasing the information because it would violate the privacy rights of its users and would reveal company trade secrets.

Nicole Wong, an associate general counsel for Google, said the company will fight the government's efforts "vigorously."

"Google is not a party to this lawsuit, and the demand for the information is overreaching," Wong said.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: americantaliban; bigbrother; google; govwatch; libertarians; nannystate; porn; snooping; statist
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To: Mojave

You will be the one begging for mercy before the court, and getting none.

How about I get a subpoena to root through all your belongings so that I might advocate for a new law. Fair's fair!


381 posted on 01/20/2006 12:17:49 AM PST by HiTech RedNeck
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To: HiTech RedNeck
Beg, beg, beg. Google's privacy policy explicitly informs users, "We may share aggregated non-personal information with third parties outside of Google."

That's exactly what is being sought in this investigation.

382 posted on 01/20/2006 12:20:14 AM PST by Mojave
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To: HiTech RedNeck
Not even Scalia will let you take Google's data.

On the contrary, Scalia is the first to lose his constitutional principles when it comes to enforcing his views on personal vices.
383 posted on 01/20/2006 12:21:15 AM PST by UnbelievingScumOnTheOtherSide (Give Them Liberty Or Give Them Death! - IT'S ISLAM, STUPID! - Islam Delenda Est! - Rumble thee forth)
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To: Mojave

Google may CHOOSE to do this. If Google does not CHOOSE, then you have no right to it.

The very fact that you are spewing such frivolous "objections" (haw, haw, haw) means you know your case is a loser, loser, loser.


384 posted on 01/20/2006 12:22:08 AM PST by HiTech RedNeck
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To: UnbelievingScumOnTheOtherSide

That's why I pointed him out. If (when) he stays, the whole court stays. And if he doesn't, Thomas will give him a royal dressing down in the 8-1.


385 posted on 01/20/2006 12:25:32 AM PST by HiTech RedNeck
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To: HiTech RedNeck
If Google does not CHOOSE, then you have no right to it.

The Justice Department has no right as part of an investigation of the kiddie porn industry to subpoena information Google has explicitly stated was subject to release?

For its part, the Justice Department said the data received from Google's rivals showed that the search query information did not contain "any additional personal identifying information" and that trade secrets would be protected under procedures put in place by the trial court."

Google's not at risk; the anarchist ilk on this thread fears for the pornographers.

386 posted on 01/20/2006 12:31:39 AM PST by Mojave
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To: Mojave

They have no right to it under our Constitution.


387 posted on 01/20/2006 12:32:34 AM PST by HiTech RedNeck
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To: Mojave
Google's privacy policy explicitly informs users, "We may share aggregated non-personal information with third parties outside of Google."

That's exactly what is being sought in this investigation.


"May" does not mean "will". And Google will charge a fee for the information it chooses to sell. Google has a property right in the data. Google can also be adversely affected by turning over this data because people will not trust Google and will use it less. Also it would set a precedent regarding information that anyone may hold that the government can have access to it without a crime being involved. This would be the KELO case for all the personal information in the country.

But you agree with Hillary, if it's for the children...
388 posted on 01/20/2006 12:32:48 AM PST by UnbelievingScumOnTheOtherSide (Give Them Liberty Or Give Them Death! - IT'S ISLAM, STUPID! - Islam Delenda Est! - Rumble thee forth)
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To: UnbelievingScumOnTheOtherSide
Also it would set a precedent regarding information that anyone may hold that the government can have access to it without a crime being involved.

Yes, I quite note that the Desert Beggar has yet to say what he would think about a subpoena to root through his possessions in support of, say, an anti drug law. For example I want to know how many citizens are hoarding Sudafed.

389 posted on 01/20/2006 12:36:35 AM PST by HiTech RedNeck
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To: UnbelievingScumOnTheOtherSide
"May" does not mean "will".

"What a person knowingly exposes to the public, even in his own home or office, is not a subject of Fourth Amendment protection." --Katz v. United States, 389 U.S. 347, 353 (1967).

390 posted on 01/20/2006 12:38:31 AM PST by Mojave
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To: HiTech RedNeck
what he would think about a subpoena to root through his possessions

If the data were in my possession, the Justice Department would recieve the information needed to identify the pornographers as well.

Congratulations to Yahoo and American Online for turning data over.

391 posted on 01/20/2006 12:42:25 AM PST by Mojave
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To: Mojave

Thank you for showing us anew how frivolous and wishful your position is. The "exposure to the public" here doesn't mean what you would like it to, namely a discretionary sale.


392 posted on 01/20/2006 12:42:27 AM PST by HiTech RedNeck
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To: Mojave

No, would you willingly expose it for the sake of a fishing trip in support of a proposed legislation? Or would you fight that in court.


393 posted on 01/20/2006 12:43:14 AM PST by HiTech RedNeck
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To: Mojave

I never heard of any "American Online." Please provide a sourced citation.


394 posted on 01/20/2006 12:44:00 AM PST by HiTech RedNeck
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To: Mojave
"What a person knowingly exposes to the public, even in his own home or office, is not a subject of Fourth Amendment protection." --Katz v. United States, 389 U.S. 347, 353 (1967).

Non-sequitur. I didn't suggest that anyone but Google has a direct interest in the data. At the same time, Google is not "the public".
395 posted on 01/20/2006 12:44:09 AM PST by UnbelievingScumOnTheOtherSide (Give Them Liberty Or Give Them Death! - IT'S ISLAM, STUPID! - Islam Delenda Est! - Rumble thee forth)
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To: Mojave

OK, are you hoarding Sudafed? Prove your answer.


396 posted on 01/20/2006 12:44:48 AM PST by HiTech RedNeck
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To: HiTech RedNeck
namely a discretionary sale.

"We may share aggregated non-personal information with third parties outside of Google."

Nothing about "sale" there, eternal question beggar.

397 posted on 01/20/2006 12:44:58 AM PST by Mojave
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To: UnbelievingScumOnTheOtherSide

The dweeb seems to think that if Google may sell it, Google must divulge it to the government. No, that is totally Google's call to make.


398 posted on 01/20/2006 12:47:12 AM PST by HiTech RedNeck
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To: Mojave

May <> will.

May <> must.


399 posted on 01/20/2006 12:47:50 AM PST by HiTech RedNeck
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To: HiTech RedNeck

"Yahoo, Microsoft and America Online all complied with a government request for data on consumers' Web searches, a Justice Department official said Thursday."

http://www.mercurynews.com/mld/mercurynews/business/technology/13665364.htm


400 posted on 01/20/2006 12:48:28 AM PST by Mojave
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