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S.F. MAYOR: CABLE CAR FARE THEFTS - He thinks some conductors are pocketing cash from riders
San Francisco Chronicle ^ | 1/19/6 | Rachel Gordon

Posted on 01/19/2006 7:50:42 AM PST by SmithL

San Francisco Mayor Gavin Newsom said Wednesday he is convinced some cable car conductors are stealing fare money -- and that the Municipal Railway needs to change the way it collects cash to stop the thefts.

Newsom said he believes conductors are skimming fares from cash-paying riders because on three occasions he rode the cable cars and handed over his $5 cash fare but never received the required receipt.

The mayor said that another time he observed a conductor collecting five or six fares on a packed cable car "and didn't give one receipt for any of them." And, he added, "that's just one moment" in time.

"I am convinced, based on my own personal experience, (the money) is not going to Muni, but it's going in the pockets of some of our well-meaning operators," Newsom said.

The mayor made the comments at a budget briefing in his office as part of a larger discussion on the Municipal Railway's continuing budget problems.

He said he doesn't mean to point fingers at all conductors and that the vast majority of times he's ridden a cable car he's been given a receipt.

Interviewed about the mayor's remarks as they waited to start their runs at the Powell and Market turntable Wednesday evening, cable car operators generally declined to speak on the record. Their reactions ranged from eye-rolling to indignation.

"Why would you steal?" asked Mark LaCroix, who has worked as a gripman and conductor on the cable cars for the past seven years. "We make a decent living. Why would anyone jeopardize their job?"

(Excerpt) Read more at sfgate.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Extended News; Government; News/Current Events; US: California
KEYWORDS: cablecar; thesanfranciscotreat
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Tipping your public servants?
1 posted on 01/19/2006 7:50:44 AM PST by SmithL
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"I am convinced, based on my own personal experience, (the money) is not going to Muni, but it's going in the pockets of some of our well-meaning operators," Newsom said.

Huh?

2 posted on 01/19/2006 7:52:15 AM PST by 2banana (My common ground with terrorists - They want to die for Islam, and we want to kill them.)
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To: SmithL

I would think the "well meaning" ones would be giveing a reciept for ALL fares!


3 posted on 01/19/2006 7:54:12 AM PST by southernerwithanattitude (new and improved redneck)
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To: SmithL

$5 cash fare!!! THERE's the outrage. Does it really cost $5 for a cable car ride now? (or did I read that gnorw?)


4 posted on 01/19/2006 7:54:36 AM PST by Blueflag (Res ipsa loquitor)
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To: SmithL
"We make a decent living. Why would anyone jeopardize their job?"

Umm, it's a combination of two reasons:

1. Greed.
2. Minimal fear of getting caught.

5 posted on 01/19/2006 7:54:40 AM PST by TruthShallSetYouFree (Abortion is to family planning what bankruptcy is to financial planning.)
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To: 2banana

Mental typo. He was thinking of another expression.


6 posted on 01/19/2006 7:55:49 AM PST by proxy_user
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To: SmithL

The problem is obviously not enough gay marriage.


7 posted on 01/19/2006 7:57:26 AM PST by atomicpossum (Replies must follow approved guidelines or you will be kill-filed without appeal.)
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To: 2banana

Yeah caught that.... amazing. It is like those bumper stickers that say... "mean people suck"

I have always wanted to re-write it to say.."mean people, mean well"

Because in the liberal world your actions don't count it is only what you intended to do that matters. That is why you can murder children through abortion but it is okay because you are giving a woman "rights" over her body.


8 posted on 01/19/2006 7:58:41 AM PST by Walkingfeather
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To: Blueflag

5 Bucks to get 'packed' in with a bunch of 'riders' in a trolley in San Fran?


No thanks.


9 posted on 01/19/2006 7:59:56 AM PST by digger48
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rwin Lum, president of Transport Workers Union Local 250-A, which represents Muni operators, said failure to provide a receipt isn't proof of theft...

Yeah, right! A conductor starts off with a fixed number of receipts. He must return the unused ones, and fork over the cash for the receipts he has used. If he doesn't hand a receipt to a rider, the money goes straight into his "good" pocket.

10 posted on 01/19/2006 8:00:04 AM PST by TruthShallSetYouFree (Abortion is to family planning what bankruptcy is to financial planning.)
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FIVE BUCKS TO RIDE A CABLE CAR????? It had better have a buffet!


11 posted on 01/19/2006 8:00:13 AM PST by MarineBrat (Talk is cheap because supply exceeds demand.)
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It had better have a buffet!

Just Rice-a-Roni.

12 posted on 01/19/2006 8:02:05 AM PST by SmithL (Jerusalem, Jerusalem, Lift up your gates and sing, Hosana in the highest! Hosana to your King!)
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Newsome is a jerk and is prone to grandstand. He still has egg on his face from the police video deal. Investigate a theft don't issue a blanket accusation against all conductors. Better to catch the guys than send them underground.


13 posted on 01/19/2006 8:02:24 AM PST by RGSpincich
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5 Bucks to get 'packed' in with a bunch of 'riders' in a trolley in San Fran?

Ridership is about 90% tourists. Locals walk. ;)

14 posted on 01/19/2006 8:02:27 AM PST by Mr. Jeeves ("When the government is invasive, the people are wanting." -- Tao Te Ching)
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To: TruthShallSetYouFree

1. Greed.
2. Minimal fear of getting caught.

and

3. A union to guaranteed you wouldn't lose your job without a minimum of 3 years of paid litigation.


15 posted on 01/19/2006 8:03:17 AM PST by George from New England
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To: Blueflag

Yep it does. Mostly because only the tourists will ride them and it's a huge source of revenue (in the summer the lines are HUGE - me, wouldn't go near 'em!). The "regular folk" take the bus or metro to get to their destinations, except, perhaps, during rush hour, when the California Street car is still your best bet for destinations up Nob Hill.

Dear ol' Gavin has just seriously stepped in it - those Muni drivers have one of the largest and most powerful unions in the City. I think I'll sit back and watch the fun on this one.


16 posted on 01/19/2006 8:03:57 AM PST by Right Cal Gal (Conservatives know the names of Tookie's VICTIMS!!)
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To: SmithL
Newsom said he believes conductors are skimming fares from cash-paying riders because on three occasions he rode the cable cars and handed over his $5 cash fare but never received the required receipt.

Interesting. I guess asking for a receipt would be demeaning.

17 posted on 01/19/2006 8:04:27 AM PST by Niteranger68 ("Spare the rod, spoil the liberal.")
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To: digger48; MarineBrat

I haven't been on a cable car in years but IIRC, the $5.00 ticket is good for a period of time as opposed to just one trip.


18 posted on 01/19/2006 8:15:33 AM PST by pbear8 (Please tell Ted to shut up.)
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To: Mr. Jeeves
Ridership is about 90% tourists. Locals walk. ;)

That’s a fact. The cable cars are just slightly faster walking.
19 posted on 01/19/2006 8:18:25 AM PST by ElTianti
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To: TruthShallSetYouFree
Let me add a third to your list.
3. Union "entitlement" mentality!
20 posted on 01/19/2006 8:32:10 AM PST by martinidon (Bush won sKerry lost and Soro's is out millions for nothing!)
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