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Crimean Tatars Call On Kyiv To Restore Their Rights
RFE/RL's Tatar-Bashkir Service/Interfax ^ | 12 December 2005

Posted on 01/19/2006 7:49:37 AM PST by x5452

Crimean Tatars Call On Kyiv To Restore Their Rights 12 December 2005 -- Members of the Crimean Tatar Congress gathered in the main Crimean city Simferopol said yesterday that Ukraine's integration with the West should not go forward until Kyiv restores Tatar rights.

Congressional delegates, issuing a statement at the end of the three-day session, accused Ukrainian authorities of disregarding the rights of Crimean Tatars, who were deported en masse by Soviet leader Josef Stalin in 1944.

RFE/RL's Tatar-Bashkir Service reported that congress member Timur Dagci was among the voices calling for Kyiv to recognize the deportation as genocide:

"Our problem -- the problem of Stalin's genocide of the Crimean Tatar people -- is an undeniable fact, so I believe all countries, the United Nations, and the European Union will recognize it and will decide that it was indeed genocide," Dagci said.

Many Tatars have since returned to Crimea, but have been unable to reclaim valuable land and property that was theirs before the deportations.

The Tatar Congress delegates called on the Council of Europe and the European Union to make Ukraine's possible membership in the EU and World Trade Organization contingent on their recognition of Crimean Tatar rights.

(RFE/RL's Tatar-Bashkir Service/Interfax)


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Russia
KEYWORDS: crimea; muslims; russia; tatars; ukraine
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1 posted on 01/19/2006 7:49:39 AM PST by x5452
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To: x5452

As always, the Russians did the whole mess and Ukrainian must pay for it.


2 posted on 01/19/2006 9:14:53 AM PST by Lukasz
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To: x5452
I have found new funny picture, I know that you will like it to, Description at the bottom really make me laugh. :)


3 posted on 01/19/2006 9:58:20 AM PST by Lukasz
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To: x5452

My heart goes out to the Crimean Tatars, but Kyiv can't help them- Russians are just too powereful in Crimea.


4 posted on 01/19/2006 10:47:13 AM PST by Mazepa
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To: Mazepa

It's not Russians who are making the laws limiting Crimea's freedom and stripping it of it's autonomity.


5 posted on 01/19/2006 10:52:09 AM PST by x5452
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To: Lukasz

Yet again endorsing government supression of minorities in Ukraine I see. Save your photoshop propaganda for your Nazi club meetings.


6 posted on 01/19/2006 11:01:34 AM PST by x5452
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To: x5452; jb6

Well, nice to see that you consider jb6 as a nazi too. As I remember his posts about Crimea he wasn’t cheer for Tatars at all (they are Muslims!). I’m definitely more in favor them than he is.


7 posted on 01/19/2006 11:08:56 AM PST by Lukasz
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To: Lukasz

My comments are about opression of all minorities, not JUST the tatars, and not JUST the Russians. Ukraine's government is increasingly opressive of minorities and fascists like yourself cheerlead it.


8 posted on 01/19/2006 11:17:55 AM PST by x5452
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To: x5452

They are opressed in your mind only. Btw I'm not offended because I know that you have no brain at all, so I shouldnt take it personally.


9 posted on 01/19/2006 11:20:52 AM PST by Lukasz
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To: x5452
It's not Russians who are making the laws limiting Crimea's freedom and stripping it of it's autonomity.

Crimean lack of "freedom" is not what the Tatars have a problem with. They are demanding lands (on which they've lived for centuries) from the mainly Russian, Crimean government. But Kyiv can't interfere in this because there are dopes, much like yourself :), who say Crimean freedom is being violated.
Tatars and Ukrainians are allies and I hope that the Tatars would just hang in there and not give up on the Ukrainians.

10 posted on 01/19/2006 11:25:14 AM PST by Mazepa
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To: Lukasz

You speak up only to opress people, be them Russians, be them Tatars, you're only interest is nationalism and opression. There are numerous sites which outline the opression of both the Russian and Tatar minorities by the new nationalist Ukraine government. If it were the 1920s you'd be cheerleading for Hitler in germany opressing minorities there because Germany is for real Germans.


11 posted on 01/19/2006 11:25:19 AM PST by x5452
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To: Mazepa

Crimean Tatars Dissatisfied with Yushchenko Statement

By Gulnara Khasanova, Radio Free Europe/Radio Liberty (RFE/RL)
Tatar-Bashkir Daily Report, 23 May 2005
http://www.rferl.org/reports/tb-daily-report/2005/05/0-230505.asp

Crimean Tatars are expressed disappointment with a recent statement by Ukrainian President Viktor Yushchenko that their national Mejlis should reject its stand on sovereignty. Yushchenko, meeting with the Mejlis leaders on May 5 in Bakhchisaray asked them to reject the 1991 declaration on the national sovereignty of Crimean Tatars, which he regards as a document that "contradicts the Ukrainian Constitution and causes anxiety among Crimean communities." Many Crimean Tatars believe that they, like Ukrainians, have a right to self-determination. A Crimean Tatar youth organization rejected Yushchenko's statement, saying that Crimean Tatars will never give up their right to statehood. The 1991 declaration states that "Crimea is a national territory of the Crimean Tatar people on which they alone have the right of self-determination."


12 posted on 01/19/2006 11:31:37 AM PST by x5452
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To: Mazepa

Ukrainian nationalists plan to take prisoner Russian marines
Read it in Russian

On January 18, Crimean organizations of the Ukrainian Communist Party and Movement of Bogdan Khmelnitsky Successors staged a picket to defend the Sarych lighthouse from Ukrainian extremist nationalists. As a REGNUM correspondent reports, leader of the Ukrainian Communist Party, MP Leonid Grach said: “We claim that the Ukrainian nationalists stop, they are already on the verge of a disaster. Don’t let them pull us into it.”

On the same day in Yalta, the opposition in Crimean government put its post near Yalta lighthouse. They hanged out Crimean, Russian and Ukrainian flags and slogans: “Fraternity of the two fleets is the peace pledge in Crimea,” “Let us preserve the fraternity of Russian and Ukrainian navy.” Chairman of the opposition Vladimir Kazarin said that “the posts will function till the Russian and Ukrainian governments go to the negotiation table.”

Meanwhile, leader of the Ukrainian National Assembly (UNA) announced in Kiev, that the Ukrainian nationalists called for mobilization of youth “to protect Ukrainian interests in Crimea.” He stressed, the volunteers include persons who fought in Chechnya and Abkhazia. “Don’t force UNA veterans to take prisoners Russian marines in Crimea,” said Natalya Changuli, Number Two in UNA party ticket at the parliamentary elections.

Permanent news address: www.regnum.ru/english/574885.html


13 posted on 01/19/2006 11:34:15 AM PST by x5452
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To: Mazepa

The Loomed conflict
19.01.2006 20:53 | © Messages. Ru
On objects of the Black Sea fleet in Crimea the strengthened mode of protection continues to operate. But not on light of beacons it is now riveted attention of the Russian and Ukrainian parties.

Video data © Aanoe.ru

Information war for beacons in Ukraine has confused all. And here bronetehnika if sea infantrymen on majachnyh posts cost not with automatic devices, and with sapernymi shovels? What special troops from Kiev when made a noise " the Student's brotherhood " has arrived to storm object in structure of one person, from which noise was a little?

Pickets at the Black Sea beacons are replaced one behind another. Sometimes demand to give hydrographic objects under jurisdiction of Kiev. But more often - to leave the Russian fleet alone.

" If our authorities signed the contract, be so kind as, do not dishonour our nation ", - one of piketchits shouts.

The chief of a beacon "Sarych" Alexander Kuharenko to holding a meeting already also does not leave, is tired to speak. It was difficult in the summer when protection did not expose. Remained in private with three tens picketeers.

" I then have played, I have taken a mobile phone, have made ostensibly a call, have told: yes-yes. The platoon of sea infantry leaves? Leaves. Start up will not forget sapernye lopatki. Here so it was necessary to bluff ", - the chief of a beacon recollects "fighting" everyday lives.

From eight beacons Russian chernomortsev one is grasped and that because it is in the center of Yalta without any protection. The others - behind a barbed wire. There without the special miss not that civil, to naval officers to not get.

11 meters - in height, above sea level - 30. Almost everything as was hundred years ago, - a key under ambarnyj the lock, a narrow spiral staircase. Unless a lamp nakalivanija instead of kerosinovoj.

Sarychensky a beacon, that, that the student's brotherhood, - periodically tries to attack a construction which is not amazing in the sizes. Above in a tower three persons yes dvuhkilovattnaja a lamp which light, however, is visible for 15 miles from coast hardly find room.

GPS - the most up-to-date navigating equipment, but without a beacon, as well as in the beginning of XIX century, anywhere. When out of operation there is everything, it remains a unique reference point on the sea.

" The it is more complex means, the, accordingly, a level of their reliability originally falls, - the employee of hydrographic service Igor Kulikovsky explains. - correctly the most exact site can be defined by means of beacons and other coastal reference points ".

Ukraine applies not only for beacons, but also on system of tracking "Ia?n-75" on Chersonese. It is well-known for that else in 80 always the first marked start-up of ballistic missiles on that party of Atlantic. The similar equipment to the Ukrainian colleagues have transferred during the moment of section of fleet. Since speak, it even never included.


14 posted on 01/19/2006 11:42:12 AM PST by x5452
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To: Lukasz; x5452; GarySpFc; Hill of Tara; A. Pole; FormerLib
Well, nice to see that you consider jb6 as a nazi too. As I remember his posts about Crimea he wasn’t cheer for Tatars at all (they are Muslims!). I’m definitely more in favor them than he is

Well, you've devolved to the leftist that you are, along with Tailgunner and Spanalot with your claims of me being anti-semetic, anti-(fill in the blank) but like all socialist trolls, you can't come up with one example and the few attempts are always taken fully out of context and I shoot them down just as fast and make you look like what you are, a Judas that sold out the sovereignty of his nation to the Soviet States of Europe.

Oh and by the way, those Tartars also want unity with Russia where they had more rights to include their language. As usual, in your lying ways, you shoot yourself and your commie stooge Yushchi in the foot.

As always I congratulate you. If you weren't you, I'd have a real challenge on my hands....yeah right.

By the way, shouldn't you be out cheering your precious Chechen Islamics or the Bosniak/Albanian heroes?

15 posted on 01/19/2006 11:45:47 AM PST by jb6 (The Atheist/Pagan mind, a quandary wrapped in egoism and served with a side order of self importance)
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To: Lukasz; Timedrifter; Alex-DV; ValenB4; truemiester; anonymoussierra; zagor-te-nej; ...
We Revolutionize Ukraine, One Site at a Time

Ahh, and here we have Lukasz and the new Third Way EU version of Communists International. Glad you admitted to it with pride.

16 posted on 01/19/2006 11:51:54 AM PST by jb6 (The Atheist/Pagan mind, a quandary wrapped in egoism and served with a side order of self importance)
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To: Mazepa
They are demanding lands (on which they've lived for centuries) from the mainly Russian, Crimean government.

I wonder when you'll give lands back to the Poles of Lvov?

17 posted on 01/19/2006 11:52:56 AM PST by jb6 (The Atheist/Pagan mind, a quandary wrapped in egoism and served with a side order of self importance)
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To: x5452

Don't forget, Poland was the first fascist dictatorship in all of Europe during the interwar period. Lukasz just carries on traditions. Do some research on what the Polish fascists did to Ukrainians and Belaruss and Lithuanians on their lands or their alliance with Hitler in 1938 to get lands from Czeckoslavakia, which claims Hitler pushed in the Munich Accords.


18 posted on 01/19/2006 11:54:30 AM PST by jb6 (The Atheist/Pagan mind, a quandary wrapped in egoism and served with a side order of self importance)
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To: jb6
I wonder when you'll give lands back to the Poles of Lvov?

John 16:24- ask and you shall receive.
They haven't asked, they haven't received it. lol

19 posted on 01/19/2006 11:59:28 AM PST by Mazepa
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To: jb6
Your comment:

Ukraine airs Crimean Tatar radio (Muslim Radio)

Problem is, many of these tartars (actual tartars never left Mongolia, they were exterminated by Chengis for the murder of his father, these guys are a Turkic people) are Jihadi veterans of Chechnya, Afghanistan, Uzebekistan and Bosnia. There are many cells presently in training in the hills and even though they are the minority, they are pushing for a united Caliphant. Becareful whom you support, nothing is straight forward in Europe.

20 posted on 01/19/2006 12:07:15 PM PST by Lukasz
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