Posted on 01/19/2006 6:08:35 AM PST by kellynla
SANTA ANA – As local law enforcement appealed to Latino leaders Wednesday to help with controversial plans to enforce immigration laws, one Hispanic activist threatened protests in Costa Mesa if the proposals are approved.
Nativo Lopez said if the plans are enacted he will ask Latinos to refuse to cooperate with Costa Mesa police through a campaign of "non-confidence and silence," will launch a boycott of businesses within the city, and will hold a mass march and rally there on President's Day weekend.
Lopez was among several people, including Sheriff Mike Carona and Costa Mesa Police Chief John Hensley, who spoke at a discussion organized by the Orange County Community Forum, an organization of faith, ethnic and grass-roots groups.
Police sweeps are nothing new, Lopez said, but now police and politicians are using fears brought on by the Sept. 11, 2001, terrorist attacks to justify a public policy that they say will help cut crime.
"The fallacy of these arguments about crime and security is that they have been tried before, but previously the anti-immigrant crowd did not have the Twin Towers as their big fig leaf," Lopez said.
Carona and Hensley didn't react to Lopez's threat during the forum. Both asked Latino leaders for help in educating the community on their plans, which they said have been mischaracterized as racial profiling and sweeps aimed at undocumented immigrants.
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he will ask Latinos to refuse to cooperate with Costa Mesa police through a campaign of "non-confidence and silence,"
Does that mean if a crime is committed against Latinos they will not cooperate? Hhhmmmm....
Why are they Latinos? Do they speak Latin?
I hear there are a lot of unused buses in New Orleans....
There have been states doing this and failed. Not individuals.
Well, I'm glad you have some allegiance to this country - at least in word - but a lot of your Mexican brethren couldn't care less about the USA and are turning California into the same cesspool from which they escaped. It's not going to continue to be the greatest country in the world if we continue to allow entrance to every third world immigrant who shows up. There are 40 million poor in Mexico alone, and they are within a 24-hour bus ride from the border. They will be heading our way eventually because the Mexican economy is not creating jobs for them.
Indeed, we are a beacon of hope for the world, and many countries who have embraced the same message, followed our example and provided freedom and opportunity for their people at home -that's how it should work. So what is Mexico waiting for? The change must be forced on them, and the forcing is done by closing the border.
So he's bringing Mexico's brand of political corruption into the US.... Wonderful....
I'm afraid the 'invasion' will be complete before we can/will do anything about it.
Once again, you're misplacing responsibility - the immigrants need to do more to assimilate themselves. That's what previous waves of immigrants did. I just don't get how we are suddenly the caretakers of all these immigrants. The nanny state mentality is proliferating (and it's not lost on the Hispanic community) and is one of the main things that is pulling this country down.
I'm sure the gang bangers are licking their chops with anticipation. What a wonderful champion of the people Nativo Lopez is. With leaders like this, it's no wonder the Hispanic community is in the gutter.
Why on earth would you join such a boycott?
Because I agree it.
Immigrants need to do more to assimilate themselves, I agree, but the U.S. government needs to cut bureaucratic red-tape and, I think, allow higher levels of LEGAL immigration.
What if "closing the border" leads to a recession, or worse yet, another 10-year depression - would that be worth it?!
Why
We can get labor anywhere and anytime we want from the third world - we don't need to leave the border open and exposed. And keeping net drains on the economy out is not going to cause a recession. If all that cheap labor were such an economic stimulus, Mexico wouldn't be stumbling along at .9% average growth over the past 15-20 years. They've got all the cheap labor they could ever need, and all they want to do is get rid of it. Doesn't that tell you something about the economic worth of these workers?
Have you read ANY of my posts above about why closing the border, rounding up Latinos, etc. is not a good idea?
I'm not saying that just labor sends us into another recession - how about 50% higher oil prices and a global trade war in response to us sealing the borders? A much smaller event (19 hi-jackers on 9/11) cost the U.S. economy somewhere between $600 billion and $1 trillion. However it would happen, I'm asking you if "closing the border" leads to another recession, would that be worth it?!
What does giving local police the ability to enforce immigration laws have to do with "closing the border" or "rounding up Latinos". Hell the guy who came up with the idea only wants to check the status of criminals who have been arrested for non-immigration offenses. Getting rid of the bad ones is something even the most ardent open border supporters will gladly support. Really if you want to claim to be against illegal immigration you have to actually BE against it at some point on some issue. Pick this point, its a no brainer.
So, I guess that means, "no" you have not read those posts - I am not going to repeat myself, but suffice it to say that we should not be targeting any racial group except for terrorists right now - if that's all you are talking about, great.
Lol I have read your posts and your last one seals it. Now you can claim to be against illegal mexican immigration but dont bother because any claims will be quite hollow.
I'm not in favor of literally sealing off the border to all traffic and trade, (although we could phase out trade via Mexico in favor of less hostile nations), I want the border sealed off to illegal crossers and I'm for toughening things up at the checkpoints to make sure that people are not violating the restrictions on their visas. I agree that sealing off the border would have a huge impact but I don't see anyone (even Tom Tancredo) proposing such an action.
Sorry if I think the war on terrorism is just a bit more important than the war on wetbacks. In fact, there are many worse things to worry about here in America. So, no, I don't think people should cross the border illegally, but I am also not "outraged" about the illegal immigration issue. There is enough in a healthy economy (and more importantly, American values of Freedom and Hope for a new life) for everyone here - what we should NOT do is anything which triggers another recession though - you really think it would be worth THAT cost?
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