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To: saneright
How many nations of western Europe will be islamic states in 100 years? 2? 10? All? I predict Europe is headed for a major bloodbath within 40 years between the natives and muslims (along with their self-hating, left-wing Eurotrash allies). Of course if the muslims prevail the first order of business will be is to behead their former self-hating, left-wing Eurotrash allies.

Where do you have your informations from??!

All this "Eurabia" propaganda is BS. It is correct that we Europeans have a problem with young muslims on our continent since they are usually undereducated and unemployed. This is the reason why they get aggressive - just as some minorities in the US (do you remember the Los Angeles riots in 1992?). But there is one thing for sure: They will not take over the power here. I.e. Most Turks in Germany are assimilated, peaceful and decent people. I employ some in my own business and I know what I am talking about. The much more fanatic Islamiacs come usually from northern Africa or Pakistan. Their part in our German populace is nearly zero. That does not mean that we have to ignore the problem but we should get the right dimensions.

Even in France or in the UK where the problems with muslims are much more severe, there is no sign that they would ever have the chance to take over the power. The problem is not religious, it is social. Quite a big part of those young rioters in France are usually that dumb that they left school as illiterates. In fact they do not have the intellectual potential to move anything in politics or economy. Therefore they never gain any power. They can torch some cars but they can not turn France into a muslim caliphathe.

You Americans seem have the same problem we have in Europe: Not every proposition in the media is the truth. Therefore you should be careful in believing everything.

Greetings from Lake Constance Germany.

Andreas

13 posted on 01/19/2006 5:38:22 AM PST by Atlantic Bridge (O tempora! O mores!)
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To: Atlantic Bridge

Don't call the US when you need rescuing in the future. We will practice the European religion of non-intervention. Europe is on its own.


14 posted on 01/19/2006 5:44:19 AM PST by kittymyrib
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To: Atlantic Bridge
Where do you have your informations from??!

( History and Demographics 101.)

The radical unassimilated Moslems are making babies, are you? How many children do you have? How many children do your non-Moslem friends and neighbors have? Do you see anything at all that can turn this around? Will your Turkish friends fight and die for your country, or are they just going to go back home when things get rough?

18 posted on 01/19/2006 6:22:05 AM PST by isaiah55version11_0 (Code Monkey for His Glory)
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To: Atlantic Bridge
Even in France or in the UK where the problems with muslims are much more severe, there is no sign that they would ever have the chance to take over the power.

When they become the majority, they will take power. Like in Lebanon. How many children do you have?

19 posted on 01/19/2006 6:32:05 AM PST by A. Pole ("If you cannot stop a man buying a gun, the next best bet is to make him your friend,not your enemy")
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To: Atlantic Bridge

"In fact they do not have the intellectual potential to move anything in politics or economy. Therefore they never gain any power. They can torch some cars but they can not turn France into a muslim caliphathe."

It is always refreshing to get a different viewpoint. I understand in the near term, France will not become a muslim caliphathe. In the long term however, demographics will become a major factor in why France will become an islamic state as will some other European states.

I have many concerns about Europe. With regards to muslims overrunning your countries and taking power, what say you about these two factors.....

1. Muslims immigrate in large numbers to European states on a yearly basis.
2. Muslims have a very high birthrate while in European countries while native Europeans have very low birthrates.

Thanks in advance.


21 posted on 01/19/2006 7:16:59 AM PST by Cruz
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To: Atlantic Bridge
"It is correct that we Europeans have a problem with young muslims on our continent since they are usually undereducated and unemployed. This is the reason why they get aggressive - just as some minorities in the US.."

I tend to disagree with that.

The reason moslems are a problem is because they are moslem. Their own scriptures implore them to be that way. (Sura 9:5 of the koran comes to mind)

They are like a keg of nitroglycerin imbedded in your society that appears to be passive and tolerable, but, given the right conditions, detonates, and shows its true colors.

History doesn't lie.

37 posted on 01/20/2006 6:47:37 AM PST by nightdriver
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To: Atlantic Bridge
Most Turks in Germany are assimilated, peaceful and decent people. I employ some in my own business and I know what I am talking about.

I am taking private lessons in Turkish from a charming young couple here on a student visa. I intend to compare Atatürk's "Six Day Speech" to similar masterworks by Christian historical figures (Augustine, Calvin, Luther, Rushdoony) in a doctoral dissertation. The Turks I've met have been great people, with a talent for friendship. Just remember to take your shoes off at the door!

45 posted on 01/20/2006 8:20:33 AM PST by TomSmedley (Calvinist, optimist, home schooling dad, exuberant husband, technical writer)
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To: Atlantic Bridge
All this "Eurabia" propaganda is BS. It is correct that we Europeans have a problem with young muslims on our continent since they are usually undereducated and unemployed. This is the reason why they get aggressive - just as some minorities in the US (do you remember the Los Angeles riots in 1992?).

Your European view is so typical of why our forefathers left their homes and came to America. In attributing your social problems to lack of education you show the bankruptcy of your views. America listened to that liberal mantra, and spent at least a trillion dollars attempting to solves our social problems with money. The result was a total failure. You cannot solve moral problems with money.
47 posted on 01/20/2006 9:25:08 AM PST by GarySpFc (De Oppresso Liber)
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