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Our ears once breathed [evolution of ears]
Nature Magazine ^ | 18 January 2006 | Helen Pearson

Posted on 01/18/2006 6:10:34 PM PST by PatrickHenry

Our ears could have started evolutionary life as a tube for breathing, say scientists, after examining the ancestral structure in a 370-million-year-old fossil fish.

Evolutionary biologists are intrigued by how complicated sensory organs evolved from structures that may have had completely different uses in ancestral creatures. The bony structures in ancient fish, which at some point turned into ears, for example, appear to have had mainly a structural function, bracing the cheek and holding up the jaw. How exactly they made the transition to their role in hearing has proved a bit of a mystery.

The ear is a relatively easy organ to study. Its evolving bones have been preserved as fossils, whereas the soft tissues of other specialized features, such as eyes and noses, have long decayed.

So Martin Brazeau and Per Ahlberg of Uppsala University in Sweden decided to take a close look at the ear-like features of an ancient, metre-long monster from the Latvian Natural History Museum in Riga. Panderichthys was a fish, but is thought to be closely related to the earliest four-limbed tetrapods that eventually climbed on to land and gave rise to modern vertebrates.

The researchers examined Panderichthys and found that the bony structures in its head combine features of fish and tetrapods, capturing a snapshot of evolution in action. "It's neat to see that transition," says Hans Thewissen who studies the evolution of the ear and other organs at Northeastern Ohio Universities College of Medicine, Rootstown.

Half-way house

Ancient fish have a narrow channel from the roof of the skull into the mouth, known as a spiracle, which is bounded by a long bone known as the hyomandibula that braces the cheek. In tetrapods, the equivalent bone is stubbier, a step towards the stirrup-like stapes bone that helps to transmit sound waves into our skulls.

The team found that Panderichthys has a wide, straight spiracle rather than a narrow one, and a shortened hyomandibula. They report their findings in Nature1.

Some have previously speculated that our ancient ears may have had a role in breathing.

On the basis of this new fossil evidence, the team speculates that the widened spiracle may have served Panderichthys much like the breathing holes used by modern-day sharks and rays. These allow the fish to inhale water over their gills while lying on the seabed, and avoid gulping in grit through the mouth.

The demonstration of an organ evolving provides tangible evidence against the idea, put forward by some proponents of creationism, that sensory organs are so intricate that they must have been designed by a higher being. Brazeau says: "It's a slap in the face to that kind of thinking."


Footnote 1: Brazeau M. D.& Ahlberg P. E. Nature, 439. 318 - 321 (2006).


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Philosophy
KEYWORDS: crevolist; sweden
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To: ashtanga

It sounds like you have the right idea. I like the way you put that, bioligical change over time. I would like to see evolution taught in religious schools. And I am sure it is, because there are some really good parochial schools out there.


201 posted on 01/18/2006 9:51:40 PM PST by phantomworker ("Don't accuse me of your imagination.")
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To: DouglasKC

Oh? I've never heard a mathematician state that 2 plus 2 might equal 4. Or a chemist say that a water molecule MIGHT contain two parts of hydrogen and one part oxygen. But maybe they're not real scientists.

1.9999999999 is deducted 2 and 1.9999999999 plus 1.9999999999 is 3.9999999998. 3.9999999998 is is deducted 4

H2O is water H3O is heavy water and exists in bodies of H2O. Both are water but heavy water is so named because of molecular weight difference.


202 posted on 01/18/2006 9:56:25 PM PST by jec41 (Screaming Eagle)
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To: razorbak
On the basis of this new fossil evidence, the team speculates

Check out my post: 200.

203 posted on 01/18/2006 10:04:38 PM PST by Rudder
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To: wyattearp

I think it's bedtime now. %-)

Me too. No new revelations today.


204 posted on 01/18/2006 10:17:30 PM PST by jec41 (Screaming Eagle)
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To: PatrickHenry; ntnychik; devolve; PhilDragoo
Al Gore failed to evolve! He's breathing hard!!


205 posted on 01/18/2006 10:22:09 PM PST by potlatch (Does a clean house indicate that there is a broken computer in it?)
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I think this is a picture of the study specimen.
206 posted on 01/18/2006 10:27:01 PM PST by jennyp (WWJBD?)
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To: jennyp

check your html


207 posted on 01/18/2006 10:31:00 PM PST by Rudder
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To: PatrickHenry

There are times when my ears plug up so bad I feel like I can't breathe.


208 posted on 01/18/2006 10:50:27 PM PST by Old Professer (Fix the problem, not the blame!)
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To: Rudder
This is very strange. Here's the URL:

http://69.64.39.6/cgi-bin/ImageFolio3/imageFolio.cgi?action=view&link=Humor_and_Quirkyℑ=951203D.jpg&img=60&tt=

My IE interprets the "&image" part as some kind of HTML character & mucks it up. In fact, if you're using IE, all you see in the url above after "Humor_and_Quirky" is the unprintable character block! But Firefox, OTOH, handles it correctly.

Oh well. Here's the tinyurl for it. (That was a long walk for a short payoff, I'm sure. :-)

209 posted on 01/18/2006 10:55:16 PM PST by jennyp (WWJBD?)
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To: crghill
I don't want there to be a God. I don't want to be responsible to a God. I don't want to think that maybe I'm not the highest thing in the Universe. But more than anything, I don't want you to think that their is a God who is smarter than we scientists because in our little world, WE ARE GOD.

For the vast vast majority of them that says it all crghill.

Wolf
210 posted on 01/18/2006 11:59:57 PM PST by RunningWolf (Vet US Army Air Cav 1975)
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To: qam1

I went to school with some other chemists who claimed did not accept evolution in ANY way. I then asked them if they understood the principles involved in the process of bacterial resistance, and if so, whether they wanted to change their claim a little ;) Got alot of 'er..um..er'...


211 posted on 01/19/2006 12:21:12 AM PST by right-wingin_It
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To: wfallen
"Although evolution has been falsified, it is not through thermodynamics."

Just a short LOL before I go on.


"It's [evolutions] main problem are that
1.) it cant credibly explain how something as complicted as the first cell was formed from random reactions.
"

It's like teaching math to some kids which always answer "I'll never understand it!" instead of listening.
- The theory of evolution doesn't try to explain the origin of life. It's about the origin of species. -


"2.) where the raw material came from."

For that problem astronomy provides a solution: stardust.
Is the theory of gravity wrong because it doesn't answer the origin of mass?


"It third problem falsifies it. It cant explain how 'irreducibly complex' organisms evolve, in contradiction of its own 'natural selection' postulate."

Pardon, but it was often shown wrong here on FR.
The limited definition of IC itself can't exclude evolutionary process to reach an IC status. So even if you can show us anything IC in biology you can't exclude evolution or introduce some designer or FSM. You still lack of showing us something that is IC.
212 posted on 01/19/2006 12:47:22 AM PST by MHalblaub (Tell me in four more years (No, I did not vote for Kerry))
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To: jec41
H2O is water H3O is heavy water and exists in bodies of H2O.

H2O is water, and also heavy water. In ordinary water, the hydrogen atoms are almost entirely the light isotope of hydrogen, 1H, occasionally called protium. In heavy water, they are a heavier isotope of hydrogen, 2H, also called deuterium. The chemical formula of both, however, is the same.

213 posted on 01/19/2006 1:14:53 AM PST by Right Wing Professor
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To: DouglasKC
"Or a chemist say that a water molecule MIGHT contain two parts of hydrogen and one part oxygen."

Chemist are always a little bit lazy about that. A water molecule may also contain deuterium (heavy water) or tritium or oxygen-16, oxygen-17 or oxygen-18.
214 posted on 01/19/2006 1:21:27 AM PST by MHalblaub (Tell me in four more years (No, I did not vote for Kerry))
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To: potlatch
They could drink a beer
Thru each ear

-- Mia Angeloopy

215 posted on 01/19/2006 2:04:06 AM PST by devolve (<-- (-in a manner reminiscent of Senator Gasbag F. Kohnman-)
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To: DouglasKC
"Oh? I've never heard a mathematician state that 2 plus 2 might equal 4."

Mathematics is founded on axioms.

"In mathematics, an axiom is not necessarily a self-evident truth but rather, a formal logical expression used in a deduction to yield further results. Mathematics distinguishes two types of axioms: logical axioms and non-logical axioms."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Axiom

Your problem with 2 + 2 is it is per definition 4.
Mathematics is a philosophy and not natural science.

There is no Nobel Prize for mathematics.
216 posted on 01/19/2006 2:04:25 AM PST by MHalblaub (Tell me in four more years (No, I did not vote for Kerry))
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To: PatrickHenry; All
FYI

From the article:These allow the fish to inhale water over their gills while lying on the seabed, and avoid gulping in grit through the mouth.

I've kept rays in aquariums. In addition to moving water over their gills, they'll also squirt it out of their mouth to stir up the sand/gravel to find food.

217 posted on 01/19/2006 2:40:32 AM PST by dread78645 (Intelligent Design. It causes people to lie - joebucks)
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To: Emmett McCarthy
All these "discoveries" and "facts" seem to be set 370 million years ago.

Ever seen a shark or a ray?

218 posted on 01/19/2006 2:42:47 AM PST by dread78645 (Intelligent Design. It causes people to lie - joebucks)
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To: CarolinaGuitarman
Not this crap again.

It's the only crap she's got ...

219 posted on 01/19/2006 2:49:16 AM PST by dread78645 (Intelligent Design. It causes people to lie - joebucks)
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To: crghill

Let me translate the article for you:

I don't want there to be a God. I don't want to be responsible to a God. I don't want to think that maybe I'm not the highest thing in the Universe. But more than anything, I don't want you to think that their is a God who is smarter than we scientists because in our little world, WE ARE GOD.

---

And I will now translate the above posting, showing all the relevant and truthful parts:


220 posted on 01/19/2006 2:52:20 AM PST by TheWormster
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