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Our ears once breathed [evolution of ears]
Nature Magazine ^ | 18 January 2006 | Helen Pearson

Posted on 01/18/2006 6:10:34 PM PST by PatrickHenry

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Alas for irreducible complexity.
1 posted on 01/18/2006 6:10:35 PM PST by PatrickHenry
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2 posted on 01/18/2006 6:11:57 PM PST by PatrickHenry (Virtual Ignore for trolls, lunatics, dotards, scolds, & incurable ignoramuses.)
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Our ears could have started evolutionary life as a tube for breathing, say scientists, after examining the ancestral structure in a 370-million-year-old fossil fish.

Why do scientists continue to deny the fact that God created mankind? There is more scientific evidence that points to that fact than the scientists can ever make up for their imaginary beliefs. Our ears never breathed...what a bunch of hooey!


3 posted on 01/18/2006 6:14:19 PM PST by crghill
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To: crghill

Preach on!


4 posted on 01/18/2006 6:15:05 PM PST by Senator Bedfellow
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To: PatrickHenry

You really believe this junk science?


5 posted on 01/18/2006 6:15:16 PM PST by caffe
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All these "discoveries" and "facts" seem to be set 370 million years ago. I think they do that so that not as many people will laugh at them.


6 posted on 01/18/2006 6:16:02 PM PST by Emmett McCarthy
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To: PatrickHenry
provides tangible evidence against the idea, put forward by some proponents of creationism, that sensory organs are so intricate that they must have been designed by a higher being. Brazeau says: "It's a slap in the face to that kind of thinking."

That kind of ignorant thinking needs all the slaps in the face and kicks in the butt educated people can possibly dish out!

7 posted on 01/18/2006 6:16:32 PM PST by shuckmaster (An oak tree is an acorns way of making more acorns)
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There is more scientific evidence that points to that fact than the scientists can ever make up for their imaginary beliefs.

Hogwash! Put forth your evidence.

8 posted on 01/18/2006 6:18:16 PM PST by Rudder
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To: crghill
Why do scientists continue to deny the fact that God created mankind?

If a couple of space aliens walked out of a UFO on to your lawn, you'd "prove" the above fact to them how, exactly?

9 posted on 01/18/2006 6:18:30 PM PST by Strategerist
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"Why are there still monkeys!?"

Now available in a new flavor: "Where are the transitional ears???

10 posted on 01/18/2006 6:18:38 PM PST by M203M4 (Sarcasm tags are overrated)
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There's another article on this in Science Magazine: The Ear's Missing Link, with a better illustration than the one you can see in the Nature article:


Ear in sight. The middle ear evolved as primitive fish (top) became more advanced (bottom): The spiracle enlarged as the proportions of other bones (yellow, blue) changed.

11 posted on 01/18/2006 6:19:12 PM PST by PatrickHenry (Virtual Ignore for trolls, lunatics, dotards, scolds, & incurable ignoramuses.)
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To: Emmett McCarthy
All these "discoveries" and "facts" seem to be set 370 million years ago. I think they do that so that not as many people will laugh at them.

It's because this particular fossil was found in rock strata dated by multiple means to be 370 million years old.

12 posted on 01/18/2006 6:19:30 PM PST by Strategerist
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To: crghill

To be ignorant is curable. The exaltation of ignorance is a life being wasted in slow motion.


13 posted on 01/18/2006 6:19:44 PM PST by gcruse
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I wonder if God gets tired of you telling Him how He did it.


14 posted on 01/18/2006 6:19:59 PM PST by Moonman62 (Federal creed: If it moves tax it. If it keeps moving regulate it. If it stops moving subsidize it)
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Let me translate the article for you:

I don't want there to be a God. I don't want to be responsible to a God. I don't want to think that maybe I'm not the highest thing in the Universe. But more than anything, I don't want you to think that their is a God who is smarter than we scientists because in our little world, WE ARE GOD.


15 posted on 01/18/2006 6:20:36 PM PST by crghill
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Our ears could have started evolutionary life as a tube for breathing

I thought it was common knowledge that our ears evolved from the gills of fish.

16 posted on 01/18/2006 6:20:55 PM PST by phantomworker ("Don't accuse me of your imagination.")
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To: PatrickHenry

300+ million years ago? What's so special about this? Evolutionary Biologists talk out of their asses to this day.


17 posted on 01/18/2006 6:21:30 PM PST by bigcat32
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Some have previously speculated that our ancient ears may have had a role in breathing.

Well, that certainly explains a few things. Everytime I get an earache, three days later - BAM - I get bronchitis or pneumonia. I am AKA 'the wearer of the dorky hat with the earflaps on a sunny day guy' (which was far too long to use as a screenname).

18 posted on 01/18/2006 6:22:36 PM PST by wyattearp (The best weapon to have in a gunfight is a shotgun - preferably from ambush.)
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To: crghill

Get over yourself. God and evolution are not mutually exclusive.


19 posted on 01/18/2006 6:23:00 PM PST by phantomworker ("Don't accuse me of your imagination.")
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So, for how many generations did our ancestors have to live with a hole in their heads before it became a lousy "ear" before it became an ear?

And for how many generations did "dinosaurs" have to live with lousy "arms with feathers" before they became wings?

20 posted on 01/18/2006 6:23:04 PM PST by manwiththehands (The only politician worse than a crooked democRat is a crooked Republican.)
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