Why Do “Jewish Organizations” Promote Hate Between Jew and Christian?

Toward Tradition ^ | 18JAN06 | Rabbi Daniel Lapin

[TSchmereL]

If I knew how to post a link to a picture of a rabbit with a pancake on its head, I would.

[TSchmereL]

I will not be surprised if this thread gets pulled soon. You are determined to derail it.

[churchillbuff]

I will not be surprised if this thread gets pulled soon. You are determined to derail it."""

No, I'm pointing out something that many people won't admit -- but that was common wisdom among Christians for centuries. Rejecting the Messiah - whether you're Jewish, Gentile or Moslem -- has consequences for the way you think.

[Cicero]

It depends on the organization. If you are a liberal fund-raising organization like the ADL, it's very tempting, because it's a good way to raise funds from a liberal constituency.

The more they play to their donors' fears, the more money pours in. Simple.

[Alouette]

There are consequences of formally rejecting the Messiah - one of the consequences for Judaism is that it has lost its way morally

Do you think Rabbi Lapin has lost its way morally? At one time you professed admiration for him.

Are Orthodox Jews just as equally immoral as liberal, non-observant Jews, simply because they don't hold the same religious beliefs as you do?

[TSchmereL]

No, sir. This thread is about Why Some “Jewish Organizations” Promote Hate Between Jew and Christian.

This thread is not about whether Jesus was the Messiah. We might as well debate how many angels can dance on the head of a pin if you want to debate whether Jesus was the Messiah.

[Man50D]

Why are you posting a link to this anti-American, anti-Israel, pro-Arab propaganda Web site? Do you agree with the Washington-Report's sympathetic view of Islamic terrorism, too, or just its anti-Jewish point of view?

You misconstrue my post. I don't know anything about the ADL that's why I did some research to see if their was any truth to the article posted. Note the keyword in my post is maybe. Take it for what its worth, which may very well be nothing.

[churchillbuff]

This thread is about Why Some “Jewish Organizations” Promote Hate Between Jew and Christian. """

And it goes on to say that the reason is that these "Jewish Organizations" are opposed to God's Law as revealed in the Torah. In the modern age - it is Christianity that is the vessel for God's Law as revealed in the Torah; this is appropriate, because God - in Christ - founded Christianity.

[Sabramerican]

Sound like terrible people. Probably shouldn't be allowed to live among decent folks. What do you say to putting them in ghettos until you figure out a Final Solution?

[churchillbuff]

Sound like terrible people. Probably shouldn't be allowed to live among decent folks. """

No, I believe in freedom, including freedom of religion. It's Foxman who wants to stop Christians from operating in the public square. Read his speech, which Rabbi Lappin aludes to. It's scary.

[Sabramerican]

Foxman is scary. If he makes one of two more speeches it will certainly be the end of Christianity in America.

Nice to know that you support Freedom of Religion for the soulless damned Jews. Still, come on, admit you would support their freedom even more if you could spot them more easily. Maybe something on their clothing.

[Thinkin' Gal]

They are in opposition to God's law. This should not come as a surprise, because Jesus - the Messiah - IS God, and rejecting Him is, well, rejecting Him.

False assumptions lead to false conclusions. Or false convictions, as it were.

[churchillbuff]

Foxman is scary. If he makes one of two more speeches it will certainly be the end of Christianity in America. """

Obviously not. But he's as much of a bigot as David Duke. As for your trying to insinuate I'm a bigot, I'm just pointing out the truth: Most Jews are very, very liberal on the so-called "social issues", a fact that, in my opinion, puts them, on those issues, in opposition to God's law as revealed in the Torah. Most Jews agree with Barbara Boxer on abortion, not with Rabbi Lapin. As someone who believes that Jesus was God and the Messiah of the Jews, I believe that a consequence of not accepting Him as Messiah is a disengagement from the Torah Law that Jesus, as God, instituted. It's too bad that most Jews seem to reject some big moral basics - like abortion is evil - but it's true, and telling the truth (however un-PC it is to tell it) doesn't make me what you're implying I am.

[churchillbuff]

False assumptions lead to false conclusions"""

Which of my assumptions is false? That Jesus is the Messiah? That most Jews agree with Barbara Boxer on abortion, not with Rabbi Lapin? That the Torah condemns abortion? That Jesus - as God - wrote the Torah?

[AmishDude]

I knew from the title it was about Foxman. Take the plural off the title, he's the little goon that pulls this stuff.

[Esther Ruth]

They all know what they're doing, just simple divide and conquer, scratching open old wounds etc, whatever it takes.

They are trying to separate the religious Jewish people from the Zionist Christian, isolate them is some corner, so they can more easily rip at them as they are continuing to do in Israel now.

The world's media has very quickly made an enemy of the religious Jews and with it the assumption that of course any one who supports them is also an enemy.

And of course the Christians who hold to replacement theology sit on their hands through this whole process of vilification of Jewish and Christian literalists (In the Bible) because the main thing that is on their hearts is just getting their hands on the land that is not theirs to begin with.

[Sabramerican]

So we're all soulless lost heathens and enemies of God.

Does God want such evil to exist?

So what do you do with such people?

What is a righteous person like you to do in the face of such evil? Or is what you do on FR the answer and God's work?

[Albion Wilde]

[churchillbuff]

So we're all soulless lost heathens and enemies of God."""

No, all humans have souls. As for who's going to heaven, that's God's business. Whether I am or not, or you are or not, is up to God.

What I believe is that God revealed himself to us in Jesus Christ. And it's Jesus's atoning sacrifice that will allow any of us to meet God in heaven.

As for support of abortion and homosexuality being at odds with God's word, do you disagree? Are you saying that the Torah accepts homosexuality?

[Sabramerican]

So it's OK with you if I continue to live and let God judge me.

Thank you kind sir, I'm grateful for your charity.